Canadian members - Where do you buy U40 syringes

[k9diabetes]

I was contacted by someone in Ontario Canada concerned about the cost of treating her newly diagnosed diabetic dog as she's on a fixed income.

How much for NPH and syringes there?

Natalie

[We Hope]

Natalie,

While I don't have pricing, I see that WalMart has stores in Canada and they would be selling the ReliOn insulin and syringes the same as they do in the US. Would believe there's a similar savings there as here with them also.

http://www.walmart.com/cservice/ca_storefinder.gsp

"To find a Wal-Mart store in Canada, call 1-800-328-0402 from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. (ET) Monday-Friday."

This might be a possibility.

Kathy

[Cara's Mom]

Natalie, the only member I know from Ont. is Jo-anne ( and Lady). I cannot tell you anything about insulin here in Canada.....
Besides Wal-Mart there is London Drugs...they have big assortment of diabetic supplies. Their prices are not bad either and they are very helpfull.
Hope this is some help!

[k9diabetes]

I think I'll email Jo-anne and see if she can help, perhaps talk to this lady directly via email. I heard back from her and she is very worried and needs some assistance sorting this out.

[BestBuddy]

Hi Natalie,
Just did a bit of googling and came up with this.

http://www.diabetesexpress.ca/

Shipping is free over $150 and only $7.95 under $150 and it's in Canada.

The prices look ok to me but of course I pay more in Australia so there may be better options.

Jenny & Buddy

[Glenda12]

I was just having a peek here and came across this thread. Yes, Walmart was the cheapest to get syringes, and they are everywhere as well, depending where she is in Ontario too. I'm in Manitoba. Also for the insulin, she can check PetPharm.org as long as she has a prescription that she can fax in. That is were I used to get Reiko's caninsulin...way cheaper than from the vet, even with shipping. I usually ordered 10 vials at a time and they shipped purolator. Now they don't ship prescriptions out of province, but she is in Ontario, so won't have to worry about that. Worth a try anyway.

Hope this helps.

[Dollydog]

Hi everyone,
Have just been off the forums for a couple of days but have been on my hotmail so got Natalie's message this am and have responded to her with my phone number.
The PetPharm.org site should be interesting but this other lady should probably try a human insulin if she's just getting started, especially with a big dog. But then, my Lady gets 14iu's each injection so maybe I should be finding a cheaper place to buy Caninsulin than our vet. Treating both diseases is very expensive especially as the closest vet clinic costs $100 round trip in gas just to get there! Then there's the motel cost before we even get into the clinic!!
Hope I hear from this lady soon,
Jo-Ann & Lady

[k9diabetes]

Hi Jo-Ann,

Thank you SO MUCH for offering to help. I have sent her emails to you and your email address to her.

Her Lady was going to be at the vet all day yesterday, I presume for a curve on her first shot of insulin so I'm very anxious to hear how it went.

Natalie

[k9diabetes]

Terry was asking me about buying U40 syringes as she's currently using the 28 gauge ones that come with Caninsulin.

Anyone in Canada using U40 syringes - what's available and where do you buy them?

Natalie

[eileen]

U40 syringes can be expensive and sometimes hard to come by, it would be cheaper to use U100 syringes and do the conversion, with the U100 syringes there is the choice of using a smaller needle such as 30 or 31 gauge which also makes the injection less painful on the pet.
http://www.felinediabetes.com/insulin-conversions.htm
Eileen

[eileen]

oooops, after posting I now see that this discussion has already taken place on another thread. Eileen

[terry lacorte]

wow...everyone has been so helpful...thank you very much

[Debbie & Apollo]

We get ours from PetMeds -- they will MATCH any price you find on the internet --
just call, have your information and you'll be good to go!
They usually send a coupon so I get another few $$$$ off plus free shipping.

Debbie and Apollo

[We Hope]

http://www.1800petmeds.com/U-40+Syringes+For+PZI+and+Vetsulin+Insulin+-prod10725.html

Here's the site's page for them. Their pricing is a bit higher than the other places I visited, but the real test will be how much they propose to charge for shipping.

http://www.1800petmeds.com/images/shippingpopup.gif

http://www.1800petmeds.com/help.jsp

Contact us

Callng or e-mailing them couldn't hurt. ;)

Kathy

[Dollydog]

Hi,
I'm just seeing this now as we've not been on the computer much this weekend....too many computer problems!! I'm in Northwestern Ontario and I order my U40 syringes from UltiCare...they're 29 gauge and they have the best barrel for my hand. I've seen some U100's, 29 or 30 gauge (Monojet ?) in our pharmacy and their barrel is even shorter.
I'm not sure exactly what I pay for the U40's from the US as there is another fee added separately for FedEx Trader(?) to handle the syringes coming across the border and I usually buy 200 at a time. I've also been in the US every once in awhile to buy them in person.
I'll check and come back,
Jo-Ann

[Dollydog]

Me again,
The UltiCare syringes come from UltiMed and they charged me $44.61 CDN on July 31st for 200 syringes, (2 boxes of 100 in each box). I think she said there was $5 for shipping. The FedEx Trade Network charges me $9.95 separately for handling the syringes through the border.

I have just ordered another 200 so will know what they charge me when I get my Visa bill. I ALWAYS ALLOW 2 WEEKS FOR THE SYRINGES TO GET TO ME. I don't believe what UltiMed tells me about how long it will take. When they take the order they don't know what route the package takes and as we live in a small town and get our mail through a post box I have to include my post box number.
If any Canadians want any more info, please feel free to contact me by PM.
Jo-Ann & Lady :)

[We Hope]

Jo-Ann,

This is great to know, as their website says they were shipping in the US only. I always ordered directly from them with no problems, but I'm in the US.

Thanks so much for going to the trouble of looking all of this up! :)

Kathy

[Dollydog]

You're welcome....they always deal with me just as if I live in the US ....I love them!!!
Jo-Ann & Lady :)

[Dollydog]

I knew I forgot something...their phone number is on my Visa bill....1-877-858-4633. If any Canadians want to order from them, tell them that you got this info from me...they're just so polite and easy to deal with. And I think their computers take our postal codes. A lot of US computers can't take our postal codes as we have 6 digits and US zip codes only have 5!!
Jo-Ann & Lady :)

[Cara's Mom]

Just ordered from UltiMed........$22.99/100. Ordered 200, their bill is $67.24(incl shipping) Have to see what border charges will be!
They are the U-40, 1 cc/ml, 1/2" x 29.

[Dollydog]

I order the U40 .5cc, 1/2 x 29 so wonder if mine are cheaper or the prices have gone up since July!! Will find out when the Visa bill arrives.
Jo-Ann & Lady :)

[We Hope]

Ladies,

I think I see where the extra $ comes in. Jo-ann buys her syringes "box only"--

http://www.vetrxsupply.com/itemdesc.asp?item=09260&ref=srh&srcfield=itmdesc&SearchFor=U-40&itemsPerPage=10&recstart=0

U-40 UltiCare Vet Rx Insulin Syringes 29g x .5cc 100/Box $17.99 BOX

Marion bought the syringe and disposal unit package--

http://www.vetrxsupply.com/itemdesc.asp?item=07261&ref=srh&srcfield=itmdesc&SearchFor=U-40&itemsPerPage=10&recstart=0

U-40 UltiCare Vet Rx Syringe/Ultiguard 29g x 1cc -100 Count $22.95 BOX

I see only the 1/2 cc syringes being offered "box only". The maximum number of units the 1/2 cc syringe holds is 20. 1 cc ones hold 40 and 3/10 syringes hold 12. If you need 1 cc or 3/10 cc syringes, they show them only as being sold with the disposal unit.

Marion, you're presently at 14.5 units with Cara and it doesn't seem that you'll be going up past the additional 5.5 units which would fill a 1/2 cc syringe. You might want to try ordering the "box only" 1/2 cc syringes next time.

When I was ordering from them they had only 1/2 cc and 1 cc syringes and both were "box only"--they didn't have any disposal units that could be bought with them.

Kathy

[Cara's Mom]

Is there a difference in length between 1/2 cc and 1 cc syringe?

[We Hope]

Marion, there's a difference in the length of the barrel, where the insulin is held. The barrel of a 1 cc syringe would need to be longer than the barrel of a 1/2 cc syringe to hold more units.

While these are U 100 BD syringes, I think if I post the link to a page showing the U 100 3/10 cc, U 100 1/2 cc and U 100 1 cc, you can see that the barrel of the 1 cc syringe is longer than that of the 1/2 cc, and that the barrel of the 1/2 cc is longer than that of the 1/2 cc. When you view them all on the same page, I think it's easier to spot that.

The length of the needle is an entirely different measurement, just as the gauge of the needle is.

http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/d_06_341.htm

If you compared a U 40 syringe with a U 100 syringe both holding the same amount of cc's you would notice that the U 40 syringe has a "fatter" barrel and that the unit markings aren't as close together as they are on the U 100 syringe. But if you took both of them, filled them with water and "shot" the water into separate glasses, you'd find that both the U 40 and U 100 syringe held the same amount of liquid.

Kathy

[Cara's Mom]

Thanks Kathy!
It does not look like the difference is all that great. My hands are rather long and narrow (have trouble buying gloves) and was worried about short syringes:o:o. Next time I will order the 1/2cc syringes!

Learnt something new again:)

[We Hope]

You're darn tootin' we aim to please! :D

Kathy

[Cara's Mom]

And that you do:):):)!