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oliversparents 12-10-2016 03:57 PM

Re: Ollie's journey
That's what we are thinking, too, that the thyroid med starting kicking in. We are staying at 22 units and monitering for a while. He's been in the low 400-high 200 range, but it appears to be dropping slowly back down.

Another question: what kind of changes, if any, do dogs experience when they get on a better dogfood? I'm assuming that would be one with less fat and carbs, more protein, and even more fiber.

Ollie has been losing all his fatty lumps and organ fat, which is great. Seems like his metabolism is finally correcting some of that. However, I'm concerned with the trend continuing...will he get super thin? We are considering a change in diet, but don't want it to make him much thinner.


stylynjm 12-10-2016 08:23 PM

Re: Ollie's journey
Sissy lost some weight after starting thyroid,but she leveled out at a good weight,but defineately watch that...;)

oliversparents 12-16-2016 02:02 PM

Re: Ollie's journey
Hi everyone.

Ollie has had a week of glaucoma pain, relieved somewhat by Tramadol. Since he is blind in that eye, and it does not seem to be resolving this time, we have decided to have his remaining eye removed on Monday. It will be an end to his eye pain, and we will have one less issue to cope with in his health.

I will keep you updated. The first eye was removed by a pricey specialist. This time we're going with an older, experienced country vet. It's a lot cheaper, but he will not have an implant.

There's already a few differences: the specialist kept Ollie on Tramadol right up til surgery time, the country vet is taking him off 24 hrs prior. The specialist gave Ollie something to calm him down prior to surgery, country vet is not going to (it might interfere w/anesthesia). And finally, the specialist said to feed him normally prior to surgery, but the country vet says give a light breakfast with 1/2 insulin.

All in all, I think the country vet is more cautious and less expensive because they don't have a pro anesthesiologist to really take care of everything perfectly during surgery. Just a guess.

Cross your fingers for our pal,


Riliey and Mo 12-16-2016 02:15 PM

Re: Ollie's journey
good luck Ollie

crossing fingers and toes for your boy

I like country vets there more stable and down to earth


CraigM 12-16-2016 03:32 PM

Re: Ollie's journey
Hopefully Ollie will feel much better after the eye removal. My Annie's diabetes became much easier to manage after she went totally blind. Not sure if it was because she no longer had pain that she was hiding, or if it was because she was on reduced eye medications afterwards.

Annie copes very well with blindness. I'm still amazed that she sometimes tries to run across the yard (pulling me on the leash)!


oliversparents 12-17-2016 05:01 PM

Re: Ollie's journey
Yes, Ollie is coping very well with blindness. He runs across the yard, too! That's one of the reasons he keeps bumping and irritating that eye. But he's now able to get on and off the deck and navigate the yard just fine. He's got the house down, too. He goes for walks on a harness or off leash with his visor. Which, by the way, is rather heavy and uncomfortable. I'm not sure I can recommend it. It's good for short periods of time.

His blood sugar is good too, since the thyroid meds kicked in. He's not difficult to manage. It's much better to go into surgery in a healthy state, and he's much healthier now than 6 weeks ago when he had his first eye removal. He does not seem to be in much pain, but the eye looks more swollen even after a week on tramadol and extra eye drops. So, I'm hopeful that this is a good decision, about the surgery.

Any advice on reducing his breakfast before surgery? This vet said a light breakfast and 1/2 insulin. My husband is considering a very light breakfast and 1/4 insulin. I am concerned that Ollie will get anxious and throw up his breakfast during the 2 hr drive to the vet. I'll be bringing some food and treats and of course all his insulin stuff, and honey. Hopefully I can get him to eat something if he does throw up.

One thing making this difficult is that we are nearly out of test strips, and not at liberty to use the remaining few as freely as we'd like. I'm hoping to get more at the vet's. Our shipment of strips was delayed due to the Christmas shipping slowdown.

CraigM 12-17-2016 05:59 PM

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I think different vets have different thoughts concerning a reduced meal before any type of surgery. A couple of months ago Annie had a growth removed from over her eye and the vet said no breakfast / insulin. I went ahead and gave her about 1/4 dose of insulin.

When she came home in the early afternoon, I gave her 1/4 sized meal along with a tiny (1 unit) of Novolin-R. If if didn't have the Novolin-R, I would have just skipped the insulin until the evening meal / injection. One day of running high probably isn't a big thing?


k9diabetes 12-17-2016 06:14 PM

Re: Ollie's journey
Hope Ollie sails through the surgery and recovers quickly!

We came close to removing our diabetic dog's eye at one point because it was causing him a lot of pain from a corneal ulcer that wouldn't heal. Not like he would miss it as he'd been blind for some years by then. In the end, the ulcer healed up and we didn't have to do it.

It's good to hear that he's doing so well. :)


Judi 12-18-2016 10:53 AM

Re: Ollie's journey
My Jenny had a couple of dental procedures with anesthesia after becoming diabetic. I think we did no food and maybe 1/4 insulin. the vet was very very nervous and it went fine. I think the vet made sure she was there and kept a special eye on her.

Hopefully the same will hold true for Ollie! I'm glad he is adapting so well

Auddog 12-19-2016 09:11 AM

Just wanted to wish Ollie good luck today!! Hope the surgery goes well!

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