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bichons9 08-19-2019 01:19 PM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse girl (Post 167666)
do you have any recent complete curves so we can have a look see ?

The last curve 8/11/was far from the worst but can't upload from pc on this site?..It's on this link at the bottom of the page.Because some am FBG =80 and some =400 I have not been doing alot of curves. If you have time to view Suzie's chart in my signature below, I'd appreciate if any pattern is being observed. We raised her insulin to 9.5 u-U-100/3.8u-U-40 Her health and blood values are fine other than D.M.

Curve ...https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1740071685
Chart... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=811447094

jesse girl 08-19-2019 03:28 PM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
what is ursodio ?

bichons9 08-19-2019 10:24 PM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
Ursodiol is Actigall =a normal digestive enzyme already present in body..adding more that may help gallblader/pancreas if sludge is "suspected" after ultrasound..was ordered a year + ago but one of the DVM's said she didn't need it..but kept giving it thinking it couldn't hurt..but AFTER TONIGHT NOTHING MAKES ANY SENSE..will open new vial of Vetsulin, d/c ursodiol and then if no improvement will take her to DVM to see if something wrong...Vetsulin was due to change in 3 days..maybe no good??
6p- 520 AT
8p-461 AT
10p-242 AT and then...
12a-354 AT repeat -369[/Petsure strip-288
1a-AT 420
2a-AT 500
2:20 AM..VETSULIN 4u-(U100) 1.6u (U-40) 2pm was an error...sorry

I have never kept Regular insulin...can't get walgreens to answer ..And Walmart closed

jesse girl 08-20-2019 09:51 AM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
I understand your frustration . Jesse was similar her first year . She was on vetsulin for maybe 3 weeks and then she went to nph . She would drop like a rock and bounce back up all in a few hours . It was just brutal . I looked at what her biggest problem was which was the big drop after food and insulin and I experimented on reducing that drop which took a long time and allot of trial and error to figure out . What she ended with is numbers that averaged from 100 to 250 for the day and a routine that is quite different than most . I am good with that . She has not been the most consistent dog as far as regulation so I am very happy with where she ended up

Riliey and Mo 08-20-2019 11:14 AM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
Can you please post when you are feeding and injecting insulin?
What food, how much?
I.m confused with your post injecting at 2 pm?
Most people feed and inject in the am and pm.
Thankyou

bichons9 08-21-2019 10:18 AM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riliey and Mo (Post 167673)
Can you please post when you are feeding and injecting insulin?
What food, how much?
I.m confused with your post injecting at 2 pm?
Most people feed and inject in the am and pm.
Thankyou

I am sorry..The 2pm was an error..It was 2 :20 AM!!! We were in a panic state on 8/20. I know that most don't include their chart here but you are invited to look at what was going on 8/20..After weeks of erratic BG results, it got bad on 8/20...and because I do not keep "Regular" insulin on board, I was reluctant but gave Suzie 1/2 dose VETSULIN..As it turns out..I believe the VETSULIN vile was probably the issue..Being near the end of the vile on day 39, we also neglected to notice EXPIRATION DATE was 9/2019. However, Suzie will be checked out by DVM to make sure she is ok. The link is below if you wish to see our dilemma on 8/20. Suzie eats Rubie Stewbie 2X/day and receives small piece chicken breast+ 3 green beans if BG gets low. She receives her VETSULIN 25 minutes after each meal at 6am and 6 pm. Her BG tests are performed 7-8X per day since 8/2017 since VETSULIN is very unpredictable in Suzie's case.

Riliey and Mo 08-21-2019 01:16 PM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
Yes it seems the new bottle solved the problem
Thanks for clarifying
I.m getting older and my eyes play tricks lol. Its not my eyes this time!

bpcooper14 11-14-2019 12:19 PM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
We've been having a lot of high highs and low lows recently with Ace. Still on Vetsulin but can't seem to dial in the correct dosage with the very and the BG curves. I'm starting to wonder if a switch to another insulin might be warranted. I'm aware we'd be starting from scratch basically.....

jesse girl 11-14-2019 12:37 PM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
Big swings in blood sugar can be to much insulin or balance between food and insulin can be a problem . Other factors like EPI , cushings and other challenges can have an affect

A change in insulin can get you to reset the process if struggling . NPH would be the next logical insulin to use

It may not be completely starting over because you already have an understanding what going on and you maybe able to move the process a bit faster

Do you have any recent curves and has regulation ever been good ?

bpcooper14 11-14-2019 05:26 PM

Re: Vetsulin vs. Novolin N vs. Novolin 70/30
 
Here is a link to the Google sheet I started with today's readings. The vet has us using a freestyle libre to monitor his levels because it's been difficult getting a prick to get enough blood for a curve at home.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...t?usp=drivesdk


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