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CraigM 10-10-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stylynjm (Post 89138)
:):) can't wait to do it. Way over due. Sat will be 4th full day at 6 1/2, but she was on 6 1/2 for awhile before. Only 6 for 3 doses when I changed to novolin.

So, your Novolin-N dosage looks to be the same as your Humulin-N dosage?

stylynjm 10-10-2012 07:26 PM

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Yes,Craig. She is on the same as she was on humilin.:):) seems to be fine.!

stylynjm 10-11-2012 06:50 PM

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Wow,lower numbers!!! Especially tonite.285 after food!!! I used human prime meter today,but she lowered sooner after food and didn't have that 400+ spike.only rose to 340. She felt good today,good energy. I gave her 6 units tonite because of the lower after food #'s.she was lowest at 11:15a.m. need feedback!!!!

stylynjm 10-11-2012 06:53 PM

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The 285 after food tonite was an alphatrak #. The prime # was 180

Cebe 10-11-2012 07:00 PM

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She wasn't that low. I wouldn't change the dose at all. And I wouldn't wait 30 minutes to do the shot. I give my dog her shot right when she is done eating, and I think it will help your dog to have that insulin working as she begins to digest.

Don't be afraid, give it a try and do some testing in the couple of hours post food and see what happens.

stylynjm 10-11-2012 07:01 PM

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Prime #'s. 8:30 a.m.-220
11:45 a.m.-147
12:45 p.m.- 187
6:10 p.m. after food,before I.ailing 185

Cebe 10-11-2012 07:07 PM

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Does that prime meter always read so much lower than alpha?

stylynjm 10-11-2012 07:20 PM

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Yes,Cebe,the prime reads a lot lower than alphatrak. All human meters read lower.that's why I'm having a little trouble figuring what a good range on the human meter would be!!

CraigM 10-11-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cebe (Post 89241)
Does that prime meter always read so much lower than alpha?

Let me give my thoughts on this since I use both the Prime and AlphaTrak-2.

I believe most see their human meter read lower than either their AlphaTrak, or vet's lab value. In the lower range, there may be a 30-40 point difference. The point difference increase as the numbers rise as the "error" seems to be a percentage. Here are some examples I might see:

Prime 70 would be close to 107 on the AlphaTrak
Prime 150 would be close to 230 on the AlphaTrak
Prime 200 would be close to 307 on the AlphaTrak

Cebe 10-11-2012 07:48 PM

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Way out of my league math wise to figure that out! But Craig is the man when it comes to the meter math.

Do you have the ability in the next couple of days to only use your alphatrak? And then when you get the numbers more stable, you can experiment with meters?

stylynjm 10-11-2012 07:55 PM

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Yes Craig.just about eight,mine seems to have slightly higher alphatrak numbers compared to urs,but in line:):) yes Cebe.I have been using both and getting comparison,the prime during middle times( cost of strips factor) and alphatrak when Important and of course for curves.:)

CraigM 10-11-2012 08:04 PM

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Just tested, fed and injected Annie. I used both meters for fun:).

Prime 64, AlphaTrak2 94

The problem I have with the Prime , and ReliOn Confirm before the Prime, is not to panic when I see 60s on the meter!:eek:

stylynjm 10-11-2012 08:13 PM

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Lol,wow,no with the prime I wouldn't worry about 70. When I did both I got prime 70 alphatrak 134!!! I just talked to my vet,happened to ask about timing of shot,she said it couldn't matter!!! Just checked Sissy,alphatrak,a little over 1 hr from insulin and she was 500!!!!! Is her timing changing??? Probably should ha w given 6 1/2. See what she is later.

stylynjm 10-11-2012 08:32 PM

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I know vets can't know everything,and for the most part,they r not on the ground with this,day to day!!:)

Cebe 10-11-2012 08:40 PM

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I disagree with your vet on the delay. Itty bitty changes can matter.

Stay consistent and try no delay and see what happens. :)

stylynjm 10-11-2012 09:13 PM

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Yes,I realize after knowing u all, little changes do matter.I get so frustrated with myself sometimes,that I can't just make eveything perfect for Sissy. I will keep working at it!!! I wish I knew how she feels:confused:

Cebe 10-12-2012 04:55 AM

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I used to beat myself up for not being perfect (in life overall and with regard to Zoe). I know that there are ideas of perfection in regulation but remember every dog is different and you and your dog will travel a different path than others. What you may wish to do is not compare yourself to others but try to tune into what's happening with your dog and learn the process of this disease so that you can create a routine that works for you and Sissy.

So cut yourself some slack. It took me months to feel more comfortable with what I'm doing with Zoe and I recommend taking a deep breath and give yourself a break.

You're doing great and it seems to me that a few more tweaks and you will hit a good stride. :D

stylynjm 10-12-2012 07:04 AM

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Thank u so much all of u for encouragement.!!! This definitely teaches u patience.:)I know we r way ahead of where we were. I have learned so much. I will keep pushing forward.I am very determined!!!. Lol,sorry for the frustration melt down:):):);)

CraigM 10-12-2012 08:40 AM

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Totally agree with Cebe! I'm nearly 5 years down this path and still see the occasional 400, or are forced to give a dab of honey.:confused: Seems whenever I think I've got things under control, something unplanned happens.

This is somewhat like being a TV weatherman. We may have an idea what to expect, but mother nature can make our plans completely wrong!:)

Rubytuesday 10-12-2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cebe (Post 89276)
I used to beat myself up for not being perfect (in life overall and with regard to Zoe). I know that there are ideas of perfection in regulation but remember every dog is different and you and your dog will travel a different path than others. What you may wish to do is not compare yourself to others but try to tune into what's happening with your dog and learn the process of this disease so that you can create a routine that works for you and Sissy.

Wise words!

stylynjm 10-12-2012 10:38 AM

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Thanks all,tomarrow is curve day.looking forward to collecting I.formation and hopefully being able to make some positive changes, with ur help,that will help Sissy be as good as possible.:):):):):)

stylynjm 10-12-2012 10:42 AM

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Any tips on doing a curve????

Cebe 10-12-2012 11:01 AM

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Thanks Ruby! :)


A curve:

The first test is done right before food and shot ("fasting"), then the next is done 2 hours later, and then again 2 hours later until you get to the next fasting time, right before food and shot. Take that test too, then you're done.

I tend to put the 2 hr increments as appointments on my phone so I have a little beep remind me. It's easy to forget the next test. But, there's also some leeway. It doesn't have to be precisely 120 minutes, just about every two hours.

Then post the results here. :) Good luck!

stylynjm 10-12-2012 11:58 AM

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Would it help to do every hr when I think she is peaking,where I really don't know.like maybe between 4-8 hrs,or until I see her going up?? She was 397 this a.m.fasting,with alphatrak. Then,at 11:00 she was 167 on prime,so lower.

stylynjm 10-12-2012 12:02 PM

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How do u all warm up the insulin,it is sooooooo cold!

Cebe 10-12-2012 12:43 PM

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I don't warm the insulin for my dog - poor girl, but others will draw the insulin, cap the syringe, and then place it between their lips or under their armpit for a few minutes to help warm it a bit.

I don't know if you need to do hourly testing, but there's certainly nothing wrong with it. I did that one time myself when I wanted to get a better look at Zoe's dip.

stylynjm 10-12-2012 01:31 PM

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Thanks for that!! Look forward to posting curve tomarrow:):):)

stylynjm 10-13-2012 08:38 AM

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Started curve this a.m, eeeck,and by mistake,gave insulin 20 minutes after food!!!! Lol,it might be a good thing,but I was nervous about it,has u all know.:) question,what would be to high an amount of insulin?? Is there a general rule for the amount u should use per weight of dog?? What would u do,change type of insulin??? Or add something else,r ??? Just ????'s. It seems for sissys weight she gets a lot. 6 1/2 units 2 x's a day.

Cebe 10-13-2012 09:32 AM

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20 min is generally not a big deal.

You have lots of questions but the thing that's going to give you the best information to answer those questions is a completed curve. So get that accomplished today and then you can evaluate the next step.

Yes there is a formula based on the weight of the dog. I don't know what it is, and it's not precise in my view. My dog gets less than the recommended amount for her weight. Each dog is different.

buddingartist 10-13-2012 09:45 AM

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Ditto on what Cebe said.

My Buddy weighed 20ish pounds and was getting 11 units twice a day. Cushing, Addison, thyroid problems, etc, etc, all were eliminated.

Good luck with the curve.

Louise

stylynjm 10-13-2012 09:55 AM

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Thanks, curve is ongoing:):)

stylynjm 10-13-2012 10:34 AM

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When u do a curve,do u count the hrs from fasting first number or from insulin time??????

Rubytuesday 10-13-2012 11:10 AM

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As I give insulin with food I time the second test 2 hrs. from the fasting test which happens right before the food and shot.

Can't wait to see the results.

Tara

stylynjm 10-13-2012 11:45 AM

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Food at 6 a.m,
Insulin at 6:30 a.m.

Readings so far!!!

6 a.m. 336
7:30 a.m. 423
9:30 a.m. 207
10:30 a.m. 171
12 noon. 271
2 pm. 273


That's it so far ????????

stylynjm 10-13-2012 12:01 PM

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Food at 6 a.m,
Insulin at 6:30 a.m.

Readings so far!!!

6 a.m. 336
7:30 a.m. 423
9:30 a.m. 207
10:30 a.m. 171
12 noon. 271
2 p.m. 273
4 p.m. 318
6 p.m. 249



We are done!! I am not pricking her again for now!!! Why is her last # lower????

Cebe 10-13-2012 01:44 PM

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Those numbers look a little high but fixable.

Remind me. What meter r u using?

stylynjm 10-13-2012 02:57 PM

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With the alphatrak!!!

Rubytuesday 10-13-2012 05:08 PM

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I agree with Cebe, a little high but an increase will help. Any chance you want to move the shot any sooner?

Tara

stylynjm 10-13-2012 05:23 PM

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Ruby,this a.m. she got her insulin 20 minutes after food. What do u mean an increase?? In insulin???

stylynjm 10-13-2012 05:25 PM

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Isn't there to much of a high, low??? Would more insulin even it or just lower it?


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