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Old 01-09-2014, 07:17 AM
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Poor Bazz - You know I think deer have some pretty strong scents. Abby would know when one was out in yard, and she was in the house. Her hearing was going, so I don't think it was what she heard, but rather the smell.

Hope he is doing ok. I bet he had the time of his life.... more than likely he went low during the excitement and ran out of insulin towards the end of the day.

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Old 01-09-2014, 07:28 PM
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Just a quick Bazzle update,
Last night Bazz whined a bit when he got up after he'd been laying for a 2 hour movie, but that was the only indication he gave that his back was hurting him. He hasn't made a peep since which has been a relief. Another bit of good news is that the spot checks we've done today show his BG levels are back down to his normal range I guess it was all the excitement.
Still planning to do a curve this weekend. Thanks for all the healing wishes
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:23 PM
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Glad to learn Bazz is doing well. Sending more healing vibes!
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Old 01-10-2014, 07:52 AM
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Apparently I spoke too soon with Bazzle and his back pain. At 10:00pm last night, he started crying like he did when he was first diagnosed with his spondylosis. I don't mean whimpering either, I mean full blown cries for 30 to 40 seconds before tapering off.

I don't know how he's been during the day since his collisions, because I'm at work, and my dad has been having some major dental problems so he hasn't really been home the last couple of days either. My plan is to call the vet that figured out he had spondylosis in the first place and see what he recommends.

The thing that's kind of throwing me off is that I figured if my boy was in pain it would raise his numbers, but his BG levels have been fine (after the initial spike). Thanks for listening,

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Old 01-10-2014, 08:15 AM
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Soaphie has spondylosis of the spine and her protocol is as follows:

Morning:
Zrytec (allergies)
Tramadol (75mg)
Deramaxx (50 mg)

Evening:
Tramadol (75 mg)
Gabapentin (300 mg)


This protocol was through trial and error. She was in a lot of pain, ended up limping around and all sorts of other stuff. This works for Soaphie.

Good luck...it's not fun to see them in so much pain.

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Old 01-10-2014, 12:55 PM
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If he hit with his head it may be worth evaluating his neck area as well and keeping an eye on his gait and nails.

Decker had what his vet suspected was horner's in early May 2012. Because there can be neuro causes of horners they checked him over pretty good and I remember them moving his neck all around and him having no reaction which would have caused concern of pain. The memory sticks with me because of how far they could move his neck up/down and right/left.

By Oct. 2012 he was dx. by a neurologist with a cervical spinal lesion which caused him to be off balance, and both rear and front legs to knuckle. They dx. it to be cervical (c1-c5) because he had mild left cervical (neck) pain (we were not able to be present when he was evaluated at the teaching hospital). I was present when his GP checked his neck area again in late Nov. 2012 - we had a CBC run on him just before starting him on pred. He did show slight winces of pain when his neck was turned right or left. But never to the point he cried out or had a large reaction.

He took many, many falls forward when he lost his vision and became extremely lethargic before his hypothyroidism was dx. (late June 2012). We could not afford the MRI to dx. the cause of his cervica lesion. His neuro listed the following as possibilities:
"Potential causes of the lesion are:

- Disc disease with disc material intruding into the spinal cord canal
- Wobbler's disease generating scar tissue and inflamation
- Tumor on the spinal cord
- An inflammatory process such as auto-immune attack or meningitis
- Vascular event such as a stroke that damaged the spinal cord."

His bg had been fine on 5u of levemir before going to the neuro. They prescribed gabapentin (Oct. 2012) and within a couple of doses we had to reduce the levemir insulin to 4.5u - indicating that he may have been in some pain but didn't cry (we only heard a grunt when he laid down) nor was it reflected with his 5u of insulin (bg had ranged from 100 - 300). When he started the pred and tramadol (Dec. 2012) his insulin needs actually held pretty steady to lowered at times (he ranged from 3.5u to 5.5u).

Another thought is to take video to help document what you are seeing. Helpful to show a vet too - in case the behavior is not repeated at an appt. When we took video of Decker there were things I was able to see on the video that I had not caught in real time. Also helped document a timeline for him as to how his injury progressed.

Hoping Bazzle's injury is temporary and that he is back to his fiesty self soon!
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:20 PM
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Aww poor Bazzle. Hope he feels better soon.
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Old 01-10-2014, 05:07 PM
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Oh, no! Sorry Baz is not feeling well. Hope he feels better soon!
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:13 PM
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Just my luck,
The vet's office "can't squeeze him in until Monday" (sigh).

I love the idea of video-ing one of his pain attacks, but I have my doubts on if it's even possible. When we were going through this the first time I walked around an entire weekend with my phone in my hand waiting for him to have an episode and when he finally did, my phone's video recorder didn't load fast enough to catch anything. Ok, I'll admit, I had already started making plans to spend this weekend walking around with my actual video camera (with hopes it will start recording faster than my phone )

I guess I just worry because when I tried to record it, his attacks seemed to happen super fast. When I didn't try to document it, his attacks seemed to take forever.

Actually, I think the word episode describes what he's going through pretty well. His episodes put him in a lot of pain for a short amount of time, then he's able to calm down and go back to being a normal happy pup. I wonder if that's why his BG levels don't seem to be affected that much. I have noticed that he seems to be a bit higher in the evening since his litteral run in with the local wild life, but it's only been 2 days and I was worried that maybe I was over reacting.

I'll keep you guys updated, again, thanks for listening

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Old 01-10-2014, 11:30 PM
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Hey Audry

I think your Bazzle might have a bit of a strain from heading into the deer .

Is there a fence up to stop this happening again?

Wow maybe its just a muscle strain, I hope

My goodness , how is the deer

Hope it doesnt happen again

I, d be so protective and put up some sort of barrier

You Rock Bazzle, maybe a pain killer for a couple of days too

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