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Old 04-01-2018, 08:47 AM
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Many of the items that i discovered managing jesses diabetes is reflected in these guidelines showing a well thought out protocols on managing the disease

The most difficult time in regulation is the beginning and starting insulin therapy especially for a dog with other medical challenges as you have seen with your dog lily mike . Jesse had multiple complications and her history of epilepsy which made jesse quite challenging but not impossible

I might even project a complete curve be done before insulin therapy begins . The reason is the staring dose and what to begin with . If numbers are lower maybe 300s or lower across the board you may want to start with a lower starting dose . Jesse was one of those dogs that needed a dose lower than the normal stating dose which was an obstacle to her regulation .
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I think Raysaint mentioned this earlier, but the AAHA has released their 2018 Veterinary Diabetes Management Guidlines for Dogs and Cats...

https://www.aaha.org/guidelines/diab...s/default.aspx

They even include algorithms (flow charts) for getting dogs regulated...

https://www.aaha.org/public_document...nitoringv3.pdf
Good points jesse girl.

Lily’s undiagnosed hypothyroidism really threw a monkey wrench into her regulation. We lost several months and she almost lost her life because of it.
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Nulo Adult Trim Cod & Lentils, Pumpkin, FortiFlora, Dasuquin, Thyroxine
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Old 04-14-2018, 01:52 PM
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Thanks for the AAHA links..I long to read everything I can!!!!!!
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:36 PM
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OMG..It's a good thing she has you!!!!!
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:57 PM
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We were watching TV while reading your posts and saw THIS VERY LARGE DOG out the window..thought of Lilly!!!! We found her home!!!
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Old 04-28-2018, 02:06 PM
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MikeMurphy - I did a search for Nulo cod and lentils and you came up. I know you switched back to Merrick because you were seeing higher fasting numbers , but can you tell me if you saw a food spike with the Nulo? Bigger or smaller as compared to what you saw with other foods?
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:13 PM
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MikeMurphy - I did a search for Nulo cod and lentils and you came up. I know you switched back to Merrick because you were seeing higher fasting numbers , but can you tell me if you saw a food spike with the Nulo? Bigger or smaller as compared to what you saw with other foods?
She was getting 3 units of R and 13 units of N while eating Nulo. She definitely was having a food spike with Nulo, but the R compensated for it. See her curve below.

I really liked the ingredients and the protein and fat %. Seems like it should work well for a diabetic dog. It does have a moderate fishy smell.

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Mine doesn’t get R anymore on the levemir so I was looking for something with less of a spike than her current Wellness Core that has potatoes.
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Mine doesn’t get R anymore on the levemir so I was looking for something with less of a spike than her current Wellness Core that has potatoes.
LOLA..Can you give an update on how the Levemir is doing??? I have about had it with Vetsulin!!!
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LOLA..Can you give an update on how the Levemir is doing??? I have about had it with Vetsulin!!!
I posted an update in Lucy’s thread here. It’s def not perfect, but I think it’s an improvement... except for a killer food spike.
http://k9diabetes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7540
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Just checking in with an update. Lily is doing well, but slowing down now that the warmer weather has finally arrived. Our walks are shorter and less frequent.

I had to increase her insulin a bit. She’s now getting 13.5 units of Novolin N and 3.5 units of R.

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