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Old 03-04-2018, 11:06 AM
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Sorry for starting a new thread but since no one answered about my question regarding where I could buy the syringes once I move to Troy, MI, next week, I decided to take a few hundred with me from Europe so I have plenty of time to figure it out once Im there. The insulin, thats a different story. I see most of you are using NPH :I use Caninsulin, which is called Vetsulin in the US but would consider changing to NPH, if its easier to find.

So my question here, to all of you, not just to those in Michigan....do you need prescription from your vet to purchase it? where do you buy the insulin? are there different types of NPH? sorry about all this, but coming from Europe with a diabetic dog can be anything but easy.

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Old 03-04-2018, 11:50 AM
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In AZ we do not need a prescription for Novolin or Humulin, not sure about MI. Many of the folks on this forum use Novolin and it is available at Walmart for $25.00 for a vial, syringes are also available at walmart and less expensive than other pharmacies, $13 for 100.

You could google and find a walmart pharmacy in Troy and call them if there is no one here from MI
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Old 03-04-2018, 12:28 PM
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In Minnesota, you can buy the insulin without a prescription but you need a prescription for more than 10 syringes.

you just go up to the pharmacy counter at Walmart and tell them you need "N" insulin. They will put your dog in their database as a patient. It's kind of funny

If my vet forgot to call my syringe prescription in to walmart, I just started ordering syringes online.

When Jenny died I gave away about 600 syringes. I'd gone overboard lol

I know in Indiana I didn't need a prescription for syringes but no clue about Michigan

good luck with the move, I hope you find a vet you can work with!
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:38 PM
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Sorry for starting a new thread but since no one answered about my question regarding where I could buy the syringes once I move to Troy, MI, next week, I decided to take a few hundred with me from Europe so I have plenty of time to figure it out once Im there. The insulin, thats a different story. I see most of you are using NPH :I use Caninsulin, which is called Vetsulin in the US but would consider changing to NPH, if its easier to find.

So my question here, to all of you, not just to those in Michigan....do you need prescription from your vet to purchase it? where do you buy the insulin? are there different types of NPH? sorry about all this, but coming from Europe with a diabetic dog can be anything but easy.

Thanks in advance,
Sonia
There are two major suppliers of NPH: Novolin-N and Humulin-N. I've used both and didn't see a difference between them. Most on the forum use Novolin-N from Walmart because it's $25 for 1000 units in a 10ml bottle. Humulin-N, and Novolin-N outside Walmart, are somewhere in the $125 - $150 range.

As others have said, there are no federal laws concerning NPH and insulin syringe sales. It's up to the individual State, local government, and store policy.

If you switch from Caninsulin (Vetsulin) be aware of the differences in the required syringe. Are you using Caninsulin in the 10ml bottle, or the "Vetpen"? Be aware of the strength difference of Caninsulin and NPH. The Caninsulin is a U-40 insulin, while NPH is a U-100 insulin; NPH is basically 2.5 times more concentrated. In the States, Vetsulin is usually found in the 10ml bottle, and injected with a U-40 syringe (I understand the Vetpen is available, but I've never heard of anyone using it??). NPH is also sold in a 10ml bottle, but requires a U-100 syringe for proper dosing. If a U-40 syringe is accidentally used with NPH, the dog would be OVERDOSED. U-100 syringes are available at any pharmacy, but U-40 syringes are only going to be found at Vet clinics, or online.

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Old 03-04-2018, 06:10 PM
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According to this website, you don't need a prescription in Michigan for insulin or syringes.

I don't need one in FL either, so I go to Walmart for Novolin N and U100 syringes.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/cani...d-sy-t789.html
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NO prescription needed for either in Tennessee. NPH insulin is $24.88 / 10ml and syringes are $12.58 / 100 at Wal-Mart.
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:20 PM
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Dont know if its been sugested but if you do get NPH insulin and go to walmart you would ask for N insulin under the relion name . That is novolin insulin at a discounted price

You would like to get the 30 unit syringes with half unit marking if your dog is on less than 30 units

You can continue to use vetsulin and its usually readily available at the vet
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:01 AM
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WoW!
Yall are awesome!!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All these info is gold to me! I was getting more than anxious just to think of where and how to get all the stuff we need. In Europe were free to buy both Caninsulin and syringes, no prescription needed, as theyd assume youre not going to kill your own dog with insulin he doesnt need.

I use the 10ml vial, and, in fact, I use the U-100 syringes, because as Craig mentioned I figured out all I had to do is figure out how many ml are 8 units of Vetsulin, and turns out all I had to do was 8*2,5= 20 ml, which is what we give him. The U-40 syringes were more than double the price, and it came to a number after several months....

Thank you all again, really, saved my life I think theres another post here about switching from Vetsulin to NPH and Ill look for it, I think it was something like reducing the dose 30% for the firsts shots and see how it worked, not sure though, so Ill look it up.

Ill let you know how the moving goes. Now filling all the paperwork, which is plenty.....
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30 % might be a bit much but it is always safer to err on the side of caution. Many dogs end up on about the same dosage.

Are you going to bring insulin with you? I would be concerned about the stress of the move and trying to change soon after. My dogs always were stressed when we moved and my diabetic would have extreme lows so I had to monitor her more than usual until we got more settled. And we just moved across town.
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:26 AM
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30 % might be a bit much but it is always safer to err on the side of caution. Many dogs end up on about the same dosage.

Are you going to bring insulin with you? I would be concerned about the stress of the move and trying to change soon after. My dogs always were stressed when we moved and my diabetic would have extreme lows so I had to monitor her more than usual until we got more settled. And we just moved across town.
Yes, Im bringing 10 vials with me, which should last for good 2 months if I can keep them on the right temperature...

Thank you for all your valuable help!!!
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