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Old 03-17-2019, 04:18 PM
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Diabetes alone can cause elevated cholesterol and a low T4 value. If hypothyroidism is a concern please request that your vet run a full thyroid panel (through MSU or Dr Dodd’s/Hemopet). Just testing the T4 value in a diabetic may not give you accurate results. If hypothyroidism is confirmed and thyroid meds are started please ask about monitoring blood glucose levels. Untreated hypothyroidism can cause insulin resistance and once medicated, insulin needs may drastically be reduced.
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:51 AM
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Thank you for the response!

I haven't gotten a call back from my vet yet. He did have a T4 panel and his triglycerides done Saturday morning.

His blood sugar has been pretty good so I'm hoping it's not hypothyroid or anything serious..

Did your dogs show any symptoms before he was diagnosed with hypothyroid?

My old 14 year old is already going through a lot after rushing him to the emergency a few weeks ago..he was diagnosed with heart failure suddenly...and after doing an ultrasound on his abdominal and heart they incidentally found a tumor on his adrenal gland..
I'm really hoping that Mochi has nothing so I won't have to worry too much about him.
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Old 03-18-2019, 01:21 PM
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Like Holli said, if you suspect hypothyroidism, make sure your vet has a full thyroid profile done at MSU or Dr. Dodds Hemopet.

To properly diagnose hypothyroidism, a full thyroid profile needs to be done, not just a T4. A Full Thyroid Profile includes T4, freeT4, T3, freeT3 and TGAA.

My dog Lily has hypothyroidism. Before treatment, her triglycerides and cholesterol were very high.
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Old 03-18-2019, 01:37 PM
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Thanks Mike,

Mochi's levels aren't too high and his blood sugars good but I'm not sure what it could be if he doesn't have hypothyroid.

Were you guys able to notice any symptoms or differences?

I'll give my vet a call and see what the results are.
I'm not sure if he got the whole t4 panel done or just a t4. I'll be sure to ask that too.
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Old 03-18-2019, 01:52 PM
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My dog had hypothyroid before even diabetes, but he displayed no signs, so the specialist said no sense treating it, until it produced signs/symptoms.

Once he became diabetic, I decided to treat it, even tho still no symptoms. One pill a day and that's all he needs now.
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:57 PM
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Thanks Mike,

Mochi's levels aren't too high and his blood sugars good but I'm not sure what it could be if he doesn't have hypothyroid.

Were you guys able to notice any symptoms or differences?

I'll give my vet a call and see what the results are.
I'm not sure if he got the whole t4 panel done or just a t4. I'll be sure to ask that too.
The problem with hypothyroidism is that the symptoms are similar to other disorders. Lily’s main symptoms were hair loss, rat tail and insulin resistance.

I always show people these before and after photos...

Before thyroid meds...


After thyroid meds...
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Diabetes: Aug 2013 - Hypothyroidism: Dec 2013 - Cataract Surgery: Feb 2014
Insulin: Novolin R/N mix - Meter: ReliOn Prime
Nulo Adult Trim Cod & Lentils, Pumpkin, FortiFlora, Dasuquin, Thyroxine
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:40 PM
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Wow Lily is beautiful! Her tail has so much more fur now!

I just hope Mochi doesn't have anything serious...

Also what brand of Omega 3 do you guys give your dogs?
Raysaint introduced me to the Nordic Naturals last year and I've been giving that to Mochi ever since but I've been trying to look for one that has vitamin E in it as well. They say giving vitamin E helps with reducing the risk of getting pancreatitis. Do any of you give your dogs NutraSea Canine Omega3?
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:01 AM
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Mochi's triglycerides test came back normal! His thyroid test came back in a normal range but he said they have one more test for the thyroid test so he's going to call and add that on. He said it's rare that tiny dogs get hypothyroid but might as well try and rule it out.

He told me to add in some high fiber food to his diet.
Do you guys know if it's ok for me to sprinkle some flaxseed in his food?
I'm giving him the Raine nutrition Low fat kangaroo maint and he said that dog food doesn't have enough fiber.
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When jesse started on this journey i started her off on a raw meat diet which i dont think was a good idea for a diabetic . So I started adding vegetables into the diet . I also added some supplements that had fiber in them . I ended removing the supplements and added pinto beans because her pooh was not where we would like which made a huge difference . Got the Idea from craig for the pinto beans as a good source of fiber
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:13 PM
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Most omega 3 oils have a preservative in them, tocopherol, which is vitamin e.

As for fiber, I cook up some oatmeal, and pinto beans, mix it 50/50, puree it, and give him a good tablespoonful each meal. Lots of fibre. And both slow release carbs.
Sweet potato, chickpeas are also a good source.

My dog food has barley and rice bran so that helps also. Many dog foods contain a bit of flaxseed, but If I remember, on sites like dogfoodadvisor, flaxseed is one of those controversial ingredients.
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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