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Old 01-14-2015, 04:19 PM
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Wow! The experience of learning that my dog has diabetes is so overwhelming it's almost hard to describe. I've been searching, reading, comparing notes, learning the jargon/buzz words, etc., most all day. The one study about Schnauzers possibly being insulin resistant concerns me.......... the link is here in this Thread http://k9diabetes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4390

Scruff and I went for a walk this evening right before dark. His energy level is better than 75% of his normal......... amazing how much it has changed in just a week. But, he did his usual share of hiking one or the other of his hind legs to leave his mark along the way (ambidextrous I guess).

I tell yah, at this point the memories sure do flash through in a hurry! I guess adjusting and accepting the diagnosis just takes a while!
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Old 01-14-2015, 06:55 PM
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We treat with homemade chicken jerky after injections or eye drops....teeny pieces but you would think its a big steak!

Assuming your vet indicates a need for insulin be sure to head to Walmart as their Novalin N is only $25 a vial and their syringes are also the best price we've all found!

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Old 01-14-2015, 06:59 PM
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You go through the full range of emotions - depression, anger, self pity, guilt, sadness - it is overwhelming. But, diabetes is not the end. Life will change but it always does and you will find that Scruff is still your buddy and still is the same dog. I look at diabetes probably a little bit differently after all the years I have been blessed with Maggie. I feel like as much as I hate this disease, it has made me a better person and caretaker than I would have been otherwise. It has made me appreciate the small ordinary things most dog owners give no thought to. I have developed a much deeper relationship with her than I have ever had with a dog.

I was a wreck for a long time - I just knew that she wasn't going to make it. I wouldn't buy big quantities of anything even food for several years, thinking surely death was just around the corner. Seven years later, we are still plugging along. You can't get too caught up in all the information and you can't sweat the mistakes you make too much. I have made many mistakes and miscalculations through the years but you just can't dwell on it. If you have been reading on the forum, you have probably noticed that regulation doesn't happen overnight and you have to have patience and lots of it. You can do it and before long, it will be just part of daily life.
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:03 AM
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Well, off to the Vet this morning to see what the numbers are after another 12 hour fasting. Tuesday morning of this week, the first test was 318.

I've done a lot of reading over the last three days. Wow!

So, maybe we can develop a plan of action that will have good results right off the get go! However, from what I've learned from this Forum it is going to be a leaning in progress!

Scruff has about lost all of his spunk in just a week. He still has a good appetite though!......... sleeps a lot now!
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You go through the full range of emotions - depression, anger, self pity, guilt, sadness - it is overwhelming. But, diabetes is not the end. Life will change but it always does and you will find that Scruff is still your buddy and still is the same dog. I look at diabetes probably a little bit differently after all the years I have been blessed with Maggie. I feel like as much as I hate this disease, it has made me a better person and caretaker than I would have been otherwise. It has made me appreciate the small ordinary things most dog owners give no thought to. I have developed a much deeper relationship with her than I have ever had with a dog.

I was a wreck for a long time - I just knew that she wasn't going to make it. I wouldn't buy big quantities of anything even food for several years, thinking surely death was just around the corner. Seven years later, we are still plugging along. You can't get too caught up in all the information and you can't sweat the mistakes you make too much. I have made many mistakes and miscalculations through the years but you just can't dwell on it. If you have been reading on the forum, you have probably noticed that regulation doesn't happen overnight and you have to have patience and lots of it. You can do it and before long, it will be just part of daily life.

Amy, as always, you bring those feelings to words. I absolutely agree.... the relationship you build with your pup through diabetes, even though you thought you had a strong one, becomes that much stronger. You make mistakes, but never are they live threatening. We are overwhelem, anxious (I lost 10 lbs when Abby was diagnosed), but somehow you find what works for you.

Thanks for those words.

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Old 01-16-2015, 05:31 PM
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Today's Vet visit went okay. .......... the Glucose number was 288... down from the 318 taken on his initial visit earlier this week.

Vet recommended using Walmart for supplies ...... right off!

He has recommended that I use Glucose test strips for his urine and to test each morning.

Starting off with 6 units of N twice daily.

He wants to go this route for one month to see how it works. He has been working with two Schnauzers for over three years with good results.

.......... I just gave Scruff his second injection (the Vet did the first one).
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The urine strips are not very accurate. It depends on how long the urine has been in the bladder because when the blood sugar is higher than 150-180, the excess sugar will collect in the bladder. If you did it first thing in the morning, the urine would have sat there for so long and collected glucose all night. This would most likely show a higher glucose level than he actually has. If the blood sugar is under 180, it would just show that it was normal. Low blood sugar cannot be detected at all with urine strips.

Blood testing is the way to go if you can do it.
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Old 01-16-2015, 07:38 PM
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Yes, over the last four days, I've done lots and lots of reading here in this Forum and numerous links............. they all point to blood testing! In fact, seems I never read anything about urine testing!

However, considering Scruff goes out to urinate several times throughout the night, the concentration should be relative close to reality.

Scruff has always had this routine. Due to my own health issues (tinnitus), I sleep down stairs on the couch with the TV on low. Scruff sleeps beside the couch in his sleeper. He generally goes out about 11:00 pm. Then he wakes me around 2:30 am and again about 5:30 am to go out....... has done that almost from day one.

So, based on Scruff's routine and the Vet's apparent success with two other Schnauzers, he has suggested to give this a try for one month. He told us that he does have several other owner's doing home blood tests with other breeds.

We did discuss meters, calibration differences, etc., this morning during the Vet visit. We also discussed diet.

With just two injections: I can see an improvement, such as less urinating, less drinking, considerable spunk during our walk this past evening, and excitement when the grandchildren come over to spend the night. His appetite has not changed.
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However, considering Scruff goes out to urinate several times throughout the night, the concentration should be relative close to reality.

It might not be. If his glucose goes from 400 to 50 in a few hours (not saying that it will, but just as an example) his urine glucose will be elevated. And the reality is that at some point his blood glucose was dangerously low. That's really the bigger reason to test his blood.
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:25 PM
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Although I've never used urine test strips, it seems the possible danger is the pup might have very low glucose and you wouldn't know it. As I understand it, anything below about 160-180 would show "normal". So, 150 or 30 (near coma) would look about the same on the urine strip.

Just my impression, I admit I could be wrong . I encourage anyone to set me straight.

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