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Old 11-06-2009, 05:06 PM
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Here we are..Bagel, my Cushings girl since March has suddenly become diabetic with the diagnostic BG at 420. A week of drinking and peeing 24/7 and Mommy up all night taking her out took us to the vet.
She has had a bladder stone, several UTIs and been on Lysodren since March doing well...

ONE shot of vetsulin- 9 units last night..I almost died but she didn't even notice...Was suppose to do the second one tonight,,I messed up cause her fur was all wet and so I have no clue if any went in,.
better to let it go than try more..
tomorrow I do 2 doses..I will be more careful but I am still very nervous about it.
She will be 10 in Dec...weighs 40 lbs Cushings diagnosed in March...
next week she goes for curve test..
I don't know anything,,,Will she definitely go blind? Now her eyes are clear and she is pretty healthy. We go out in our stroller daily...I will post pics of that and her...
thanks..I am exhausted and trying to schedule a meltdown but no time. Have cancelled all weekend plans so I can do these shots and watch her...
Do I need to schedule 12 hour increments exactly>>> no leeway??
Sande
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:22 PM
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Welcome!

You have come to the right place! We have ALLLLL been where you are - just remember to BREATHE!!!!!!! BREATHEEEEEE!!!!! It will be fine!

Patience

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1) you were correct in not trying again on a missed shot
2) I'm glad you are going to be doing two shots a day
3) The guideline I use is 11-13 hours.....no one is perfect and can keep an exact schedule.....12 hours is the best, but 12:01 and 11:59 is fine too
4) No guarantees on eye sight. Some lose it, some don't. Those that do will tell you that the blindness is harder on you then on the dog....the dog will adjust and be just as happy as ever
5) What do you feed bagel and how much?
6) learn all you can and ask questions - everyone here is SO SO SO nice!!!!

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Old 11-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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tomorrow night is a long planned dinner theatre at my church..and I am torn as to what to do....I don't know whether to give her the shot and leave...and be gone 3 hours or so.....but since it is the first day of two shots
I feel very apprehensive ...I think I want to just stay home...
advice??
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:46 PM
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Hi again,
Can you come home in the middle of the dinner theatre or can someone else check on Bagel for you? Do you know any teenage students that could sit at your house with a movie and let you know if anything strange is happening? Or you could call them?

Lady would fuss over an injection if I was holding my breath....I had to remember to breathe naturally.
Tami has great advice...I'll be back to check tomorrow. Hope you can enjoy the dinner theatre,
Jo-Ann & my Dollydog angel

PS We had a beagle when I was growing up...his name was Chummy, my first dog.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:51 PM
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My neighbor offered to come and sit,,,, or check in...she would have to clue what to do if she did react...
I need to leave about 6 or 6:10 at the latest...
Planning on the shots from 6 to 6....
How fast could she react if she were going to??
If I knew what to expect it would be better..but we are all so ignroant here...
S
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:57 PM
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Have no idea how fast she could react but if she went too low your neighbour would have to give her some karo(corn) syrup and then call you. She would need to rub the syrup on her gums or lips.
Hope someone else will come along to help out with this issue....Lady never went too low. When she was diagnosed with diabetes her bg was 730. Her vision failed very very slowly and it was over a year and a half before anything showed up at all. And then it deteriorated very slowly.
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Old 12-12-2009, 02:09 PM
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we had similar "we need a life" issues and shot timing. our vet said it was better to give late than too earlier, so if we know we are going out at night, we would give the morning injection an hour later, and then the evening one as soon as we could. We were doing 12 units twice a day, and no matter how I tried, I was late once in a while, and it was okay.

So yes there is leeway, and a little late seems to be better than early, and just adjust back.

Say, you give your shots at 8am and 8pm, if you have to give the shot at 11pm, give the morning shot at 930, and then back time up.....

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Old 12-13-2009, 04:03 AM
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THANKS!! All of that was very helpful....I guess if I weren't such a newby with all this I would have given that insulin a try....but right now I have to rely on what they tell me..and Docs are different...HE might have told me it was ok...He is the most practical and money saving of the three...but they love my girl and they are acting in her best interests always,,,

So this morning I gave the shot at 6 and for the first time didn't test.....RATS.. she is taking her post-shot nap and I will do better...

Tonight I have a dinner and I will need to give it to her prob 5:30 or so...
I will wait til as late as I can...and learn from it...
Being out of work 4 days for family fun, I am spoiled...and so is Bagel..but ONE week and then I will be home for Christmas break so we will hang in there....
Sande
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:29 PM
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here is what we do...give the morning shot an hour later...then the evening shot will be just two hours delayed. This has worked for us and the vet said it should be okay. It is really hard to do the twelve hours exactly all the time, and you can't make yourself nuts. if you give tonights shot an hour later, and then maybe the morning one an hour and a half later, tomorrow nights shot when you get home should be okay. Afterwards, just slowly go backwards. if there are a few events like that this time of year, maybe keep at the "new schedule" till after the holidays, and then go back.

We have done this many times, with no visible affect.

Go out, and have fun.

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Old 12-10-2011, 03:25 AM
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Bagel has been growing cataracts and they are rapidly clouding.
This morning one eye is veryyy red in the white parts.
The vet is not open yet- and i can't find info here although I know it's here somewhere...

Can anyone direct me?

sande
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