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Old 05-30-2016, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Magoo is worse, don't know what to do.

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As you are using Vetsulin did you know that you can buy a Vetsulin pen which makes injecting simple, consistent and as fuss free as possible.
I use one myself, and you buy cartridges of the insulin instead of bottles from the same company.
They come in boxes of ten catridges, and each cartridge contains 108 units.
When in use inside the pen all you do is dial up the dose, inject as I said earlier which is done by pressing in a button at the end of the pen, leave inserted to the count of 10 seconds then remove.
You have to use there own special needle which screw onto the end of the pen and you can use just the one needle for the 2 daily injections, saving some cost, although they are not really expensive in the biggger scheme of things.
The needles are also short 12mm long so you cannot go deep.
They are also specially lubricated so they slide in easily causing no discomfort to your dog.
As I say the cartridges would be costing the same as you buying bottles of Vetsulin, the needles for the pen will be slightly more than the syringes, but I dispose of mine in my normal rubbish as they are only small and are potected with 2 outer covers so pose no risk to anyone.
The pen comes in 2 sizes and can be bought online being the cheapest, you want the smaller size.
Vetsulin in pen form is difficult to find in the U.S. (I think). Although it was announced nearly 2 years ago in pen form, I think few vets actually stock it, and I can't find any online seller. Seems this is another thing where the UK and Canada are ahead of of us. You've had Caninsulin in pen form for years?

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Old 06-03-2016, 05:26 AM
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Hi everyone and thanks for your replies. Things are going better. I got the 31 gauge syringes and they are not the same. These are the U100 syringes. I found several conversion charts on line and they all matched. I also measured the dose and it is identical. Confirmed with vet so good to go. We also found that we were holding Magoo wrong. Tech at vet showed us how yesterday. We put him on kitchen island on a thick rubber backed bath mat. Hubby holds his head in the crook of his arm and his other arm under him. Totally stabilizes him and no fighting. The 31 gauge needles work much better. Magoo is still not in love with the procedure but tolerates it. He is eating much better. Ate all his breakfast the last two days. Now all I have to do is learn to test him properly. Vet is going to give me another lesson! My vet is so nice....we took Magoo in yesterday morning to get his shot as we were just not able to control him, tech did it, showed us how to hold him and no charge at all. Vet wants me to do Magoo's next curve myself and he will just interpret. Magoo seems to be doing very well and I cannot thank everyone enough for your help! At 71 this is kind of tough to manage!
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Old 06-03-2016, 05:55 AM
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Lol,good job. It does get much easier.sounds like you are doing a great job
Keep up the good work and let us know how magoo is doing. Glad he is eating,sshhhhhh
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Old 06-03-2016, 06:17 AM
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I'm so happy to read your update! that is great news about your vet working with you and Magoo. Judi
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Old 06-03-2016, 07:05 AM
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Nice work, ... getting the job done n' everyone's happy.
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Old 06-18-2016, 04:25 AM
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After just a few months, Magoo is going blind. I can see the cataracts and he has trouble finding his "cookie" on the floor. Vet appointment Monday. He is still not regulated. Vet thinks he may have Somogyi rebound at night. I have slightly reduced his dose at night and he is at least eating some for me in the morning. I have to do a 24 hour curve at home. Still am lousy at the testing. Only place he will let me do it is his ear and I just don't seem to be able to get anything most of the time. Tried the warm sock, rubbing his ears, use the flashlight to find the vein and still no luck. Any helpful thoughts on what I am doing wrong will be most appreciated. Going to try to start this today. My poor little one, it just breaks my heart.
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Old 06-18-2016, 07:24 AM
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Have you tried carpal pads...they are on the back of front legs.i find them easier...
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Old 06-18-2016, 07:35 AM
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Aww, poor Magoo. My Gus went blind within 6 months after diagnosis, and it seemed like it was just overnight. He has adapted very well. I think it was harder on me than him. The biggest hurdle was getting him to learn and navigate the porch steps to go outside. I wanted him to learn it instead of me having to carry him up/down the steps. He does very well. I say "down" for each step, and he follows sounds too to make his navigation around. I have 2 other dogs, so following them helps too. The first time he went to the vet, he was a little nervous because he didn't know where he was and he was apprehensive about walking, but he does much better now when we have to go. They know their smells and that is their navigation. When he gets his frozen green bean treat, I do have to hold it right to his mouth because they don't smell, but he takes it and just chomps away like he really has something. He still loves sitting in the window and feeling the sun, even though he can't see out the door.

I have always used the carpal pad for his blood sample, and I generally test 2-3 times a day. No problems in getting the blood drop. My little guy lays back in my arms on my lap, gets his belly rubbed and just kisses my nose. He knows the routine and I'm lucky I don't have a problem. Would your Magoo let you love on him in that way and you test his carpal pad? I have to keep the hair trimmed around it, but that's not an issue.
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:49 PM
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Thanks for the replies and guidance. I have not tried carpal pads. I tried the foot pads and that did not work at all! He is a little guy and a wiggle worm. The reason we ended up with the ears is my husband can hold him the same as we now do with his shots and I can at least get a chance of getting a decent poke. Did get blood today but it disappeared into the fur and I wasted three of the expensive Alpha Trak strips! I saw an idea about a little Vaseline and got some today and will try that. Wish me luck!
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Old 06-18-2016, 01:02 PM
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i know craig uses a trimmer to trim the fur off the ear

he is the expert of testing the ear maybe you might want to reach out to him

we have always used the inner lip for jesse
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