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Old 11-16-2018, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

I see in your signature that you vary the add ons to his food. Maybe sticking with one of the add ons, like pumpkin, for several days in a row might give more consistent fasting numbers.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:13 AM
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Sorry for the confusing signature, I don't vary the addons, I stick with the same at each meal pretty much.
Mornings he gets pumpkin and pinto/oatmeal puree. Supper he gets blueberries and pinto/oatmeal. Same quantities of each.
Once in a while I'll substitute spinach/green bean puree for the pumpkin.

So I think with these fasting inconsistencies, which are not typical of the past year, it's time to see the vet and do a full bloodwork, thyroid, triglycerides for starters.
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.

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Old 11-23-2018, 02:59 PM
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Checking for an update - but know the holiday may delay things.

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Old 11-24-2018, 02:13 PM
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Had bloodwork done Friday, waiting for the results. Last 2 morning fastings were way high. I hope it's something treatable like thyroid.
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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Old 11-25-2018, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

I know this may sound a little strange, but I noticed Daisy's fasting numbers starting to go up as well. I looked back on her log from Oct/Nov 17 and she did the same thing. Again, her curves showed her nadir dropping too low too fast. I adjusted her insulin lower and ground up her food a little more to keep up with her insulin a little better. Fasting levels are coming down.

I'm starting to wonder if the shorter days and longer nights have anything to do with their little bodies adjusting to the seasons. I've decreased almost a half unit so far.

Then the opposite happens in March.
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Old 11-25-2018, 06:20 AM
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We'll see what the bloodwork says. If it's clear, then I'll do a curve to see what and if he has a nadir. He had that weird curve pattern where his nadir was pretty much his fasting. No bowl type shape at all.
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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Old 11-26-2018, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

Iíve been seeing weird numbers lately too. No consistency in fastings OR how her body is reacting to insulin day to day. One day can be perfect and the next itís like she didnít even get her injection and just continues to rise throughout the day. I was wondering if it could be seasonal/weather related or maybe injection site.
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:30 AM
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Well, bloodwork results came back perfect. So I'll do a couple curves, and it shows he could take a dose increase, I'll probably up it a half unit.

Question: I know as a dog or human ages, insulin requirements can change. Riley turned 8 a couple months ago, was diagnosed in Feb. 2017, and only got decently regulated Feb. of 2018.
Have your dogs needed more insulin as they aged?
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:49 PM
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Thats good news

jesse has stayed fairly consistent over the years but i do adjust the dose a bit depending on fasting
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

Daisy is up and down between 5.25 in the winter and almost 6 in the summer.

Happy all his bloodwork came back normal!!
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