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Old 01-17-2011, 01:34 PM
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Gentle hugs for Jack....nothing to add or suggest....just hoping there's a solution to his discomfort.
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Ugh, now he's been out three times in the last four hours... I'm not sure if this says anything about a problem with his response to the pred. I will try to check in with the vet.

His neurologist had access to the article on potential thyroiditis and gabapentin and faxed me a copy!

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Ugh Natalie. Better set your alarm. Hoping the benefits make it all worthwhile
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We waited too long the first time after going to bed and Jack didn't make it to the door. So I cut the alarm to every hour and a half, two hours tops, and that worked okay for him. I didn't think it was gonna be this bad.

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Old 01-18-2011, 11:11 AM
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I know every dog is different but it seems Jack is maybe very sensitive to the pred? Ali was on pred many times in the past and her drinking and peeing increased but I don't remember her needing to get up in the night.

You guys must be exhausted!
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Oh my goodness - I'm so far behind!

Sorry for all your troubles Natalie! Man, Jack REALLY lucked out finding you!!!!!
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:15 PM
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I just talked to the neurologist. He's calling in a prescription for Medrol, a methylated version of prednisone (haven't had a chance to look it up yet) - it should have the same anti-inflammatory effect but not the urinary problems.

He agreed that Jack seems to be very sensitive to the prednisone and says it's a urine-concentrating issue.

It's not that the pred made Jack thirsty. The urination came first, followed by drinking some extra to compensate for the fluid loss.

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Natalie,

I hope this variation does the trick. I'm sure the pred side will help with the pain and if this new stuff stops the excessive peeing then it should work.

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Old 01-19-2011, 06:42 AM
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Natalie - of course, I have nothing useful to say as I don't really know much about what's happening to your Jack. I just wanted you to know that I'm really hoping Jack will feel better soon and all will work out well in the end.

Thinking about you and Jack...
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:39 AM
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Ugh... 24 hours off of pred and he still has to urinate every 1.5 hours. If we wait 2 hours, he dribbles some on his panicky way out the door. And he's not recognizing the need to go himself until he has trouble holding it.

So I'm just going to set alarms and take him out every hour and a half as that interval seems to be enough to prevent accidents.

I'm not giving him anything else until we see whether he recovers his ability to concentrate his urine.

I've got a tentative appt late this afternoon and will talk to the GP vet when she comes in about whether we should be checking his electrolytes and kidney levels.

His gum color is good but the gums are dry and his skin tenting seems to suggest at least slight dehydration. He seems a little punky but we are both tired too. He had a really good, energetic park visit yesterday so he's not feeling really terrible. He so far is eating and pooping normally, just still peeing gallons of dilute urine a day.

I imagine the pred could take a few days to clear.

It's definitely not excess thirst. The urination is leading the drinking and I don't think he's drinking enough to keep up with the output.

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