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Old 11-06-2018, 08:21 AM
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Default Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

Not sure if it's an issue or it will pass, but have a look at the numbers, the pattern and progression. I know the various culprits that can cause insulin resistance, but don't want to jump to conclusions or call the vet yet. Recent urinalysis showed no UTI.
I checked the meter, it's OK.
These are all morning fastings unless indicated. His morning fastings are usually in the 4-10 {72-180) range. If his fasting is high on any day, he usually corrects and levels out within a day or two.

Oct. 22: 9.8 {175)
Oct. 23: 15.4 {278)
Oct. 24: 8.5 {155)
Oct. 25: 15.2 {275)
Oct. 26: 4.4 {80)
Oct. 27: 19.1 {345)
Oct. 28: 13.5 {245)
Oct. 29: 13.2 {240)
Oct. 30: 13.2 {240)
Oct. 31: 13.1 {235)
Nov. 1: 8.2 {150)
Nov. 2: 15.2 {275)
Nov. 3: 21.2 {380)
Nov.3, 3:30 p.m.: 13.1 {235)
Nov. 3, 5:30 p.m.: 12.2 {220)
Nov. 4: 16.1 {290)
Nov. 4, 3:00 p.m.: 22.1 {400)
Nov. 5: 7.8 {140)
Today : 13.5 {245)
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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Old 11-06-2018, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

I know he has had better, but those fasting numbers donít look too bad. Are his non fasting numbers also higher than normal?
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Old 11-06-2018, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

I haven't spot checked other times of day (except for the few shown), but it may not tell me much without a full curve. I should at least check pre supper fastings.

He does have the odd high fasting now and then, but this is too many consistently, hence my concern. Especially when his usual fastings are lower than this.
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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Old 11-06-2018, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

Was his nighttime activity any different? eat later, up and down more? Except for that 140, I'd think he maybe might be running a little high in the morning due to no activity all night

My Jenny never had great regulation so I'd have been pretty content with those numbers as long as he feels good
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:31 PM
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Jesse was running higher recently which appeared to be an ear problem. corrected that and sugar came back down
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Jesse-26 lbs - 15 years old - 9.5 years diabetic - one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack - 3 shots of Novolin a day sometimes Novolog or r as a correction to higher sugar but that is rare. total insulin for a 24 hour period is between 8 and 10 units of NPH insulin depending on her fasting number
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:37 PM
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Checked his sugar at 6:00 p.m., pre-supper, it was 17.2, not good. Donít know if his curve these days is still kinda mountain or bowl. Either way, his body isnít correcting.
He had 2 walks today, didnít seem to help. Iíll give it a few more days.
His evening routine and activity is the same.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:45 AM
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Sugar this morning was 6.6 (120) so he corrected overnight. Now, can we keep this. If good numbers are sporadic, then Iíll assume something is not right, and by good numbers I mean less than 11.0 (195) for fasting. Thatís what heís been getting pretty consistently for a while.
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

I can only wish for FBG numbers like these...Do you keep a chart overtime that others can review? Good Luck!!!
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Bad fastings for 2 weeks, why?

Things haven't really improved. My main question is: if he has an issue that causes insulin resistance {infection, thyroid, whatever), would it give him higher fastings everyday consistently? Or could his fastings be good one day, then bad for 2 days, then good for a day, etc.

His morning fastings for November have been {Cdn/U.S.}: 8.2/150, 15.1/270, 21.2/380, 16.1/290, 7.8/140, 13.5/245, 6.6/120, 13.1/230, 13.8/250, 12.6/225, 10.1/180, 20.2/360, 10.2/180, 8.6/155, 16.3/295.
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Riley, 8 yr. old maltipoo, 25 lbs., diagnosed Feb 2017, taking thyroid meds, had pancreatitis and DKA mid March, eating Wellness Senior formula can food. NPH dosage now at 9.0 units Humulin N. Adding either pumpkin, spinach, blueberries, yams, or green beans to his food. Also omega-3 oil.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:02 AM
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Its even possible the change in the seasons could have an impact but what i have seen with other medical conditions like jesses ears is inconsistency in her tastings

Jesse has always had changing regulation .for the summer it was very good but lately she has been spiking after dinner and shot so i wait to see a pattern established then address the issue

when the numbers are inconsistent it makes it more difficult to alter or change the routine to address the problem because your not sure what that actually is and its not consistent

I can understand your frustration i have had 8.5 years with jesses diabetes and a ton of ups and downs and many times for no apparent reason

when regulation changes and if its abruptly you try to figure what has changed

we get so settled into a routine with decent regulation we get into cruse control. when that changes its upsets our balance also . The good thing for you two regulation hasn't completely fell off the tracks . Its still pretty good

i could not tell you what jesses fasting will be . Its nice to see it in a good range but have to deal with not so good ones to
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