Barney

[AlisonandMia]

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Here's something on the procedure: http://dspace.library.cornell.edu:80...04%20Plant.pdf

If you google "thermokeratoplasty ulcer dog" there is quite a lot of info out there.

Alison

[gpgscott]

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Hi Cheryl,

I am guessing that the holes anchor the cornea. I am sorry that Barney has this condition but it sounds like its either the surgery or continuing issues that may be even more threatening.

I know you will make the right descision.

Scott

[Harley PoMMom]

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Hi Cheryl,

Hey there girl I know how busy your schedule is, so I had some time to surf on the internet and I typed in:

a procedure where they "burn" little holes into the cornea (100 in each eye)

for a dog and found this: multiple punctate keratotomy, do you think this might be the procedure? I found this link,http://www.furrycritter.com/health/d...neal_ulcer.htm kinda interesting, doesn't tell you alot, tho.

Just tryin to help ya out. Give Barney a big hug from Harley and me and I'm so happy his eye is doing better.

[Lucygoo]

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Hi Cheryl....That sounds good to me. I would DEFINATELY do the surgery..

Gina and Lucy

[LuvMyMunchie]

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I second Jenny's opinion, I'd opt for the surgery. I have no idea what the procedure is but if the eye doc has performed over 2,200 of them and has never had a failure, that sounds pretty darned good IMO!

Louise

[BestBuddy]

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Good news about the ulcer. Surgery is always something that has to be carefully considered but the fact that there will be more ulcers and they could be even more difficult to treat and heal that I would (my opinion only) go ahead with the surgery. I haven't heard of the "burn" procedure so I will have to google it so I understand what it all means.
Jenny

[barney's mom]

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Hey!
The ulcer is healing, the vet said there are new blood vessels forming to bring blood to the eye and that a clot is forming over the affected area. (thats a good thing) He also said the blood vessels would dissipate after the area has healed over. He said ulcers with no vessels have a 30% chance of healing while cases like Barney where the vessels have formed have a 70% chance of healing. He feels that Barneys will heal within the next 2 weeks to a month. He wants to see him after the scab or clot dissipates.
He also said Barney has a corneal membrane defect. He showed me how the new cells just move loosely over the eye instead of adhering. He said he has a 99% chance of a new ulcer forming in that eye or in the other eye.

There is a procedure where they "burn" little holes into the cornea (100 in each eye) He never gave me the name of the procedure! I want to read up on it. But he has performed over 2200 of them and has never had a failure and has never lost a dog. He wants to do both eyes because with Barney's kidney issues and his age he may not be a candidate for anesthesia in the future and with an almost certain chance of recurrence he feels we should do this in a month or so. It would be 845.00 for one eye and 1275.00 plus medications for both eyes. I was expecting worse
What do you all think?

[LuvMyMunchie]

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Hey Cheryl,

How did Barney's eye appointment go????

Louise

[gpgscott]

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Hi Cheryl,

Glad Barn is looking better and hoping the specialist gives you the high sign.

Can't recommend a product on the carpet issue but what Beth and Louse have said makes sense.

Scott

[LuvMyMunchie]

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Right along with "BB", I will also be interested in what Barney's eye doc has to say. Munchie's eye doc certainly had an entirely different opinion from the GP vets he saw.

I've also used Beth's (the human) technique for kitty urine in the carpet. I put the solution into the carpet cleaner, saturate the area and then blow dry with a box fan. Have used Natures Miracle in the past but switched to Simple Solution. Munchie never has had accidents in the house but my senior kitty was a repeat offender. I have a birch carpet and either brand of the cleaning solution leaves a yellowish residue that I have to wipe off with a damp sponge. With a beige carpet you may end up with the residue too but other than that the stuff seems to work.

Louise

[barney's mom]

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Oh sure, it's always Beth's fault!!! Beth Beth Beth....sure blame poor Beth...we can take it!

Weird with the eye....but you may be right! Sometimes I think we can overdo (not that you weren't following instructions....just that sometimes I think after a while Mother Nature does better.....my opinion....and it's trial and error...)....I'll be interested to hear what the doc thinks!

As for the carpet, I was once told by a carpet guy that steam cleaners can do just what you are seeing. They make the smell come up but don't get rid of the underlying problem. Kind of like when it's humid and you can smell accidents worse. What I have done in the past, and it has helped, is "shampooed" the carpet with Nature's Miracle. If the area is too large to douse with it straight from the bottle, I have gone over the area letting the carpet cleaner spray it on and then I leave it, put towels down until it dries. Sometimes this has taken a few times....

Now, you go give Beth kissies and tell it's OK, bc the other Beth said so....she's just trying to mark what's her's....not that I have peed on the carpet myself! But surely there is just no way it is her fault....

Love ya! The Other Beth

lol, I was thinking of you as I was typing about Beth's unsavory behavior.

[forscooter]

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Oh sure, it's always Beth's fault!!! Beth Beth Beth....sure blame poor Beth...we can take it!

Weird with the eye....but you may be right! Sometimes I think we can overdo (not that you weren't following instructions....just that sometimes I think after a while Mother Nature does better.....my opinion....and it's trial and error...)....I'll be interested to hear what the doc thinks!

As for the carpet, I was once told by a carpet guy that steam cleaners can do just what you are seeing. They make the smell come up but don't get rid of the underlying problem. Kind of like when it's humid and you can smell accidents worse. What I have done in the past, and it has helped, is "shampooed" the carpet with Nature's Miracle. If the area is too large to douse with it straight from the bottle, I have gone over the area letting the carpet cleaner spray it on and then I leave it, put towels down until it dries. Sometimes this has taken a few times....

Now, you go give Beth kissies and tell it's OK, bc the other Beth said so....she's just trying to mark what's her's....not that I have peed on the carpet myself! But surely there is just no way it is her fault....

Love ya! The Other Beth

[barney's mom]

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Hey guys, sorry I haven't been here much the past few days. Crazy busy schedule this week. Our little community hospital is going to computerized charting and I have been in computer class all week.

Barney had an eye appt with Dr Rick. Maybe a slight change for the better, he said before he could see a "lip" or and edge where the cells were building up and not sticking to the membrane. He doesn't see the lip any more.
I see the eye specialist this Tuesday.

Funny thing is I got disgusted with the eye drops. 4 times a day for just the antibiotic eye drop and then the tears, and it seemed all for nothing. This has gone on for months. He and I are both tired. I didn't put his eyedrops in for two days........and his eye looks fantastic! I am talking a HUGE improvement. Not sure if it is coincidence or if maybe the drops were irritating him???? Anyway since our eye appt is only a day away I am going to continue like I have been and see what happens.

Now my other problem. I shampooed my carpets upstairs a few days ago. My dogs are very very good about going potty outside. It can be months or years between accidents. As soon as I shampooed, I am finding pee and poop everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carpet is beige
This didn't start until after I shampooed the carpets, and ironically I just bought a new steam cleaner! I am pretty sure it's Beth. I went upstairs to go to bed yesterday morning and she was hiding beside my dresser.
The former owners of this house had cats. Think I may have stirred something up? I don't see any old spots, but there sure are a lot of new ones

Any suggestions?

[Harley PoMMom]

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Hi Cheryl,

Just checking in to see how things are going, how is everything?

[Truffa's Mom]

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La, la,la,la,la
Happy, happy,happy.

Marcela & The Choco Labs