Diabetic Australian Cattle Dog

[Riliey and Mo]

Re: Diabetic Australian Cattle Dog

shes down over 200 points from yesterday at 3pm.

good job Bear!!!

we dont want to upset her and go backwards

are you going to feed the dry tonight and the wd in the morning?

if she wont eat the dry, dont wait, feed the wd , we
ll figure out the wd price later

have you got strips yet?

[Zoology1603]

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are you going to feed the dry tonight and the wd in the morning?

I'm going to try.

if she wont eat the dry, dont wait, feed the wd

I will but it's the a/d I have, the vet sold 3 cans to me. I don't have any w/d yet.

have you got strips yet?

I have some on order. I have 33 strips left. That's 4 days left if I keep using 7 a day.

[Riliey and Mo]

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heres a pet meter on sale. theres others out there

shoppettest.com

advocate pet test meter and 25 strips on sale
$50

$50 for meter and strips cool deal

amazon has it for 64 with the genteel.lancet

worth checking out 50 strips $50

buying hills online should be cheaper than the vet

[Riliey and Mo]

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chewy.com

hills 12 tins 12 oz $34

[Zoology1603]

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heres a pet meter on sale. theres others out there

shoppettest.com

advocate pet test meter and 25 strips on sale
$50

$50 for meter and strips cool deal

amazon has it for 64 with the genteel.lancet

worth checking out 50 strips $50

Hmm, the AlphaTrak strips I ordered the other day were $49, so may as well stick with those considering I already have the meter. Don't look like it gets much cheaper. Diabetes equipment is a lucrative business.

buying hills online should be cheaper than the vet

The a/d cans they sold me were $3.16 a piece but I don't know if they have w/d, I can look the next time I go in. I've browsed them online. Seems a little ridiculous to need a prescription to order online, it's not medicine. I wonder if Chewy refrigerates it in shipment.

[Zoology1603]

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Fasting Blood :: 340 @ 5:49pm
100 grams dry dog food @ 5:50pm
9 units Vetsulin @ 5:56pm


I hope 9 units wasn't too much given she was still in the 300 range. If my meter is over by 100 that would put her in the 200 range! The next couple of tests will let us know what's going to happen.

[Riliey and Mo]

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did u test 30 minutes after food?

[Zoology1603]

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30 minutes after she finished eating would be 6:56 so it hasn't happened yet.

[Riliey and Mo]

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mo bad, sorry. i.m an hour ahead

no walks till you test more, 9 is okay

250 for the most of the day is regulation
around 200 will save organ damage eyes etc

were going slow

[Zoology1603]

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I can do 2 more days of Hills in the morning and Holistic in the evening until I'm out of Hills. Unless we get bad results tonight and can't feed it anymore I'd like to continue the dry of the evening. Should I do the Hills again tomorrow morning or try Freshpet but a smaller amount? I may be able to go into town and get some more Hills. I know if I order it, it will take longer than 3 days to arrive. We can't do the curve if we have to switch morning feeds. I have more of the Freshpet than I do the Hills.

[Zoology1603]

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6:56pm :: 584

[Riliey and Mo]

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what.... fasting at 5:49 then she ate at 5:50 . 6:56 is an hour later. thought you were going to take it 30 minutes after food?

fasting number of 340 an hour later its 584.
all these foods the dry, freshpet, a/d are raising her blood sugar

for now try the hills w/d, buy a few days worth, cause she might not like it. its for diabetic dogs.

you need to test 2 hours after food and insulin 8pm
test again 12:30 to 1 pm . tonight we catch any lows

its the 5 hour mark she goes from the mid 650 to 350.

no more food changes, stick with this dry and hope she eats it in the morning, top it up with a spoonful of freshpet, salmon oil if she wont eat it

[Zoology1603]

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Yes I wasn't thinking correctly and did an hour without realizing it. I need someone managing me now.

[Riliey and Mo]

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at first start regulating a diabetic dog is not rocket science. the repeated testing is tedious.

sometimes changing foods raises blood sugar. maybe cushings. were getting going with a good amount of food and insulin to start the vetoril if need be and save any organ damage

the curve is on in 3 days , no more changes

tonight her bg might drop below 350 around the 4 to 6 hour mark thats when u test. i doubt its going below 200.

its up to Bear now to process.

in the morning to be safe test her before you inject insulin, under 200 wait test every 15minutes till bg goes uo , then drop back to 8.5 units dont give 9

goodluck with the kibble you can add tablesppon of freshpet if she wont eat.

[jesse girl]

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Just a reminder when or if your dog takes medication for cushing it's very possible injected insulin needs may lower and it can be dramatic .

The numbers your posting doesn't seem to point to resistence as insulin is working

I would not make the assumption if your dog is registering 300 on your meter it's really 200 . Now for me at very high levels of 500 or more it could be that amount lower but inaccuracies are more about percentages .

In my 11 years managing Jesse's diabeties I took the readings as is and she never had a low blood sugar event . Now she did go low being overdosed by the vet but my meter gave me the knowledge to intervene with liquid sugar and was fine once I straighten that out and had no problem again

The dogs that do have problems are the ones heavily overdosed . Their bodies do a good job at protecting themselves with stored sugar so even a moderate overdose may not lead to a hyper event

Another assumption to be careful is blaming food for all high numbers or insulin fading . Once again the body could be the blame . Must remember your giving your dog a unnatural process with a time lapse system giving insulin compared to natural which is on demand and some constant slow release using sugar in it to balance to produce energy . Its really an amazing system and surprising how well a couple injections a day can do pretty job

Take some time to lower the tempature in the room . Find some time to relax and clear your head . You will be surprised what all the fuss was about in the not to distant future when things settle into a new normal. It appears you are seeing some physical progress . Remember that's a big part of this with how your dog feels and acts . Vets are not with our dogs for very long . You need to be a detective .