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  • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

    Originally posted by CraigM View Post
    Started the switch to Humulin 70/30 today from the previous mixing of Novolin "N" and "R". Just to remind everyone, Annie had usually been getting 6¼ iu of "N" and 3 iu of "R" mixed together. She usually stayed within the 90 - 220 range, mostly in the low to mid 100s. I decided to try the pre-mixed Humulin (ReliOn) 70/30 to save the cost of the second vial and to prevent any mistake in measuring the two different insulins.

    I replaced the 6¼iu "N" + 3iu "R" = 9¼iu total, with 8iu of Humulin 70/30. The ratio is just about the same.

    Here is todays (12-3-10) results:

    8AM = 211, fed and injected 8iu
    12N = 73, no action because I figured the "R" component was about done.
    1PM = 97
    4PM = 92
    6PM = 204
    8PM = 183, fed and injected 7½iu
    11P = 125

    Actions taken at 8PM. Lowered dose to 7½iu. Instead of injecting immediately after eating, I waited 15 minutes to allow the food to get a bit of a head start. Gave half a "cookie" to possibly raise the early BGs. Will try to test around 11PM.
    I'd give a treat about now or some more kibble, those 73-97-92 are a bit low plus your are seeing a 125 4 hrs later and the N may be in its peak or starting to peak, I'd check bg again if you can. The N is still working very slowly from the AM shot. Some insulin does remain in their system after 12 hrs, just a little but at times it matters.

    Hope this helps.

    Dolly & Angel Niki
    Dolly & Niki passed 2010, 45 lb Border Collie Mix 8 yrs as diabetic, 13yrs old. Blind N 10.5 U 2 X * Dog is God spelled backwards*If there are no dogs in Heaven then when I die I want to go where they went. Niki's food Orijen & Turkey & Gr. Beans, See you at the bridge my beloved & cherished Niki, I miss you everyday

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    • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

      Dolly,
      Thanks for the comment, but I think I'm pretty happy with the 11PM reading of 125. I believe the "R" component of the 70/30 is just about done and Annie will rise a little from here. I've got to be up a little after 3AM (about to take a 3½ hour nap) and will check again then.
      Annie was an 18 pound Lhasa Apso that crossed the rainbow bridge on 10-5-17. She was nearly 17 years old and diabetic for 9½ years.

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      • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

        Originally posted by CraigM View Post
        Dolly,
        Thanks for the comment, but I think I'm pretty happy with the 11PM reading of 125. I believe the "R" component of the 70/30 is just about done and Annie will rise a little from here. I've got to be up a little after 3AM (about to take a 3½ hour nap) and will check again then.
        No doubt you are right, I've never used R with N, the N is probably kicking in now.
        Dolly & Niki passed 2010, 45 lb Border Collie Mix 8 yrs as diabetic, 13yrs old. Blind N 10.5 U 2 X * Dog is God spelled backwards*If there are no dogs in Heaven then when I die I want to go where they went. Niki's food Orijen & Turkey & Gr. Beans, See you at the bridge my beloved & cherished Niki, I miss you everyday

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        • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

          Glad you cut back a bit to start, Craig. Keep us posted!
          Patty and Ali 13.5yrs 47lbs diagnosed May '08 Ali earned her wings October 27, 2012, 4 months after diagnosis of a meningioma ~ Time is precious ~

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          • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

            Originally posted by CraigM View Post
            Started the switch to Humulin 70/30 today from the previous mixing of Novolin "N" and "R". Just to remind everyone, Annie had usually been getting 6¼ iu of "N" and 3 iu of "R" mixed together. She usually stayed within the 90 - 220 range, mostly in the low to mid 100s. I decided to try the pre-mixed Humulin (ReliOn) 70/30 to save the cost of the second vial and to prevent any mistake in measuring the two different insulins.

            I replaced the 6¼iu "N" + 3iu "R" = 9¼iu total, with 8iu of Humulin 70/30. The ratio is just about the same.

            Here is todays (12-3-10) results:

            8AM = 211, fed and injected 8iu
            12N = 73, no action because I figured the "R" component was about done.
            1PM = 97
            4PM = 92
            6PM = 204
            8PM = 183, fed and injected 7½iu
            11P = 125
            3:30A = 195

            Actions taken at 8PM. Lowered dose to 7½iu. Instead of injecting immediately after eating, I waited 15 minutes to allow the food to get a bit of a head start. Gave half a "cookie" to possibly raise the early BGs. Will try to test around 11PM.
            I'll take a few tests today (12-4) and post them, along with my actions:

            8AM = 261, fed and 7¾ units


            Comments: Increased to 7¾. ¼iu made a difference before using the Novolin, so not surprised that ¼iu makes a difference now. Possibly should have stayed with 7½ for a few days, but I misplaced my "patience hat" Injected right after eating, no delay. Didn't want to give the half cookie, but she was doing her "happy cookie dance" in front of the cupboard - couldn't say no.
            Annie was an 18 pound Lhasa Apso that crossed the rainbow bridge on 10-5-17. She was nearly 17 years old and diabetic for 9½ years.

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            • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

              but I misplaced my "patience hat" Injected right after eating, no delay. Didn't want to give the half cookie, but she was doing her "happy cookie dance" in front of the cupboard - couldn't say no.
              Oh my goodness, I'm LOL!
              Patty and Ali 13.5yrs 47lbs diagnosed May '08 Ali earned her wings October 27, 2012, 4 months after diagnosis of a meningioma ~ Time is precious ~

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              • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                Craig,
                Every time you post I love seeing your pups in those Santa hats! Just had to tell you its such a cute pic.
                Patty
                Patty and Ali 13.5yrs 47lbs diagnosed May '08 Ali earned her wings October 27, 2012, 4 months after diagnosis of a meningioma ~ Time is precious ~

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                • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                  It looks like the 70/30 will work well for her! Yay!

                  Natalie

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                  • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                    Not so fast Natalie!

                    For some reason Annie stayed in the 200s today, so I'm tweaking just a little.
                    Annie was an 18 pound Lhasa Apso that crossed the rainbow bridge on 10-5-17. She was nearly 17 years old and diabetic for 9½ years.

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                    • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                      Is that on less than 8 units?

                      Natalie

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                      • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                        We did 7¾ this morning and she stayed in the 200s. Gave 8 units at 8PM and plan to do a test in about 30 minutes (+3).
                        Annie was an 18 pound Lhasa Apso that crossed the rainbow bridge on 10-5-17. She was nearly 17 years old and diabetic for 9½ years.

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                        • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                          8am = 289
                          5pm = 218
                          8pm = 297
                          Annie was an 18 pound Lhasa Apso that crossed the rainbow bridge on 10-5-17. She was nearly 17 years old and diabetic for 9½ years.

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                          • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                            Maybe she will need a skinny 8 units instead of a full 8. But it's a little nerve-wracking to have to work in such small increments where one loose air bubble could affect the dose.

                            Natalie

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                            • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                              Is this a good procedure? If I want to inject 8 units, I draw 10 units into the syringe, wait a few seconds, and then push the plunger up to push the 2 units / air back into the vial.
                              Annie was an 18 pound Lhasa Apso that crossed the rainbow bridge on 10-5-17. She was nearly 17 years old and diabetic for 9½ years.

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                              • Re: Annie - Getting too smart!

                                I think so. I always overfilled the syringe and then brough it down to the right level. Sometimes I filled it and expelled all of it to expel the air with it and then drew the insulin to the right amount.

                                I had it easier, though, cuz I used R only so didn't have to mix it. I always did roll it anyway but didn't really need it. I think air bubble are more common in suspensions.

                                Natalie

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