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  • Re: Border collie Jack

    Hi Louise!

    Sorry to say Jack seems to be having some pain in his back - long-term issue for him that probably often gets worse in the winter. Unfortunately, it makes him edgy and stressed and he had a pain/anxiety attack a week or so ago.

    We had him fully worked up just to make sure nothing new was going on, and thankfully nothing was found. We are increasing his Prozac a bit since he's been on a low dose for his size and are going to try adding Gabapenten to see if we can get any additional pain relief.

    It's been a challenging year for him. He is intensely ritualistic and Jeff's retirement late last year threw pretty much all of the predictability of our schedule out the window. Jack absolutely LOVES having Jeff home but he does struggle with not having a routine. And we have barking dogs next door and other new stresses.

    Natalie

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      Hope the meds adjustment helps Jack, Natalie.
      Patty and Ali 13.5yrs 47lbs diagnosed May '08 Ali earned her wings October 27, 2012, 4 months after diagnosis of a meningioma ~ Time is precious ~

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        I hope the meds help his pain and help him get used to his new routine. poor guy
        Jenny: 6/6/2000 - 11/10/2014 She lived with diabetes and cushings for 3 1/2 years. She was one of a kind and we miss her.

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          it does seem to be that dogs with a bit more challenges go to people that have the ability to give them the care they need . i did not think i was one of those people but maybe i am for specific cases

          i do understand how anxiety and panic in a pup is hard to deal with if we lived in a place with lots of thunderstorms jess would not be here today . our problem is sonic booms . as you know reducing what is the trigger whether physical or psychological is the key but it can be a hard thing to identify

          hope jack finds a path that he is a bit more comfortable . we have found that place with jesse for now but i know we will never be perfect and that ok she still has a good dogs life
          Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
          Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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            You're a good person, Natalie. You're with him every inch of the way, just as you were for Chris and Kitty Katie.
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            Otis Farrell dx'd 12/10, best friend to his dad, Bill, for over 14 years. Left this world while in his dadís loving arms 10/04/13. Sonny Farrell dx'd 1/14, adopted 5/15/14. Left this world while in his dad's loving arms 9/06/16. Run pain free, you Pug guys, til we're together again.

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              I know gabapentin is very effective in controlling nerve pain in humans. Paws crossed it will help Jack out as well.
              Sparky Love, diagnosed March 5, 2014. Enrolled in Kinostat study to prevent cataract formation. Pancreatitis June 16, 2014 - hospitalized for 6 days in the ICU. Went to the Rainbow Bridge June 23, 2014. I love you very much, baby.

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              • Re: Border collie Jack

                Natalie - I can across this dog and the first picture in his adoption profile, to me, looks exactly like Chris!

                https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/22435452/
                Soaphie = 15 yr old Border/Berner mix dx 07/08. ~8.25 units a.m./p.m. vetsulin, blind/deaf. Ultra Senior, Vital Beef/Bison, Brown Rice and lots of loving. Soaphie passed on October 29, 2015. Sydney = 14.5 yr old Aussie/Shar Pei mix dx 11/10. NPH-varies w/ predinisone a.m./p.m., blind/deaf. Sydney passed on June 3, 2014.

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                  Originally posted by jesse girl View Post
                  it does seem to be that dogs with a bit more challenges go to people that have the ability to give them the care they need . i did not think i was one of those people but maybe i am for specific cases

                  A trainer at one of the local SPCAs described this perfectly.

                  We were talking about types of dogs who should only go to an experienced home because they have issues with aggression, etc. Or, as she noted, by the kind of people who step up to whatever challenge is presented to them and become the kind of caretaker their dog needs.


                  That would absolutely be you!

                  Natalie

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                    Originally posted by Soaphie & Sydney's Mom View Post
                    Natalie - I can across this dog and the first picture in his adoption profile, to me, looks exactly like Chris!

                    https://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/22435452/
                    Oh man, no kidding! What a cutie. Her facial expression especially looks so much like Chris, the eyes...

                    So I'm curious... did you take her home?

                    I have always felt that Chris had a fair amount of pit bull or some type of bully breed in him. Another reason I'm so strongly opposed to breed bans. You couldn't have asked for a sweeter, less aggressive dog than Chris. He didn't have an aggressive bone in his body.

                    Natalie

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                    • Re: Border collie Jack

                      It's especially hard to know what to do for Jack because despite every medical test available, including an MRI, we don't really know WHAT hurts. Only where it tends to manifest itself.

                      We are trying the gabapentin in case it is some kind of pins-and-needles type nerve pain. We had tried it briefly when we first started working on his back but only had him on it a few days. It was sedating for him then. This time we will see if keeping him on it longer results in his adjusting to the sedating quality and whether it resolves his apparent pain.

                      The pain/anxiety attack was awful. I wound up getting scratched/bruised on the face in the process. All superficial wounds but I know something had to have terrified him for him to react the way he did.

                      Natalie

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                        Poor Jack, if only he could talk
                        Laura & Charlie 29 lb male lhasapoo diagnosed October 2013. 16ish units of Novolin N. 1 & 1/3 cup of Natural Balance Fat Dog twice a day. An egg with breakfast and chicken with dinner. Shares string cheese with us late afternoon. Cyclosporine ointment for KCS. Blind from cataracts January 2014. Crossed the rainbow bridge 2/1/2016 at 14.5 years

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                          Originally posted by k9diabetes View Post
                          Oh man, no kidding! What a cutie. Her facial expression especially looks so much like Chris, the eyes...

                          So I'm curious... did you take her home?

                          I have always felt that Chris had a fair amount of pit bull or some type of bully breed in him. Another reason I'm so strongly opposed to breed bans. You couldn't have asked for a sweeter, less aggressive dog than Chris. He didn't have an aggressive bone in his body.

                          Natalie
                          Oh goodness no! I regularly look at what I call 'dog porn' on petfinder.
                          Soaphie = 15 yr old Border/Berner mix dx 07/08. ~8.25 units a.m./p.m. vetsulin, blind/deaf. Ultra Senior, Vital Beef/Bison, Brown Rice and lots of loving. Soaphie passed on October 29, 2015. Sydney = 14.5 yr old Aussie/Shar Pei mix dx 11/10. NPH-varies w/ predinisone a.m./p.m., blind/deaf. Sydney passed on June 3, 2014.

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                            I'm sorry to hear that Jack is having a difficult time. No doubt he's in good hands and that everything possible will be done to help him through it.

                            Hope the gabapentin provides some non-sedated relief and that more comforting days lie ahead.
                            Holli & Decker // diagnosed November 5th, 2011 // Journeyed to the bridge January 26th, 2013, surrounded by his family at home // 9 years old // Levemir insulin // Hypothyroid // C1-C5 cervical spinal lesion // weight 87 lbs // Run with the wind my sweet boy. Run pain free. Holding you close in my heart till we meet again!

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                              Originally posted by Soaphie & Sydney's Mom View Post
                              Oh goodness no! I regularly look at what I call 'dog porn' on petfinder.
                              Hahahahaha... I totally understand that!

                              Jack's prozac dose is up and the gabapentin added twice a day... I think he's a bit less anxious and maybe feels somewhat better. So we are continuing with this for now. His back still flares up but overall it hasn't been as bad despite what for us is really cold weather.

                              Natalie

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                              • Re: Border collie Jack

                                So our Jack has developed a heart murmur from a leaky mitral valve. Mild so far but it wasn't audible six months ago so has progressed. The next six months will tell us how much of a threat it is.

                                The cardiologist wants us to give him a taurine supplement. About 750mg twice a day.

                                Suggestions on good quality brands would be much appreciated.

                                In my experience with other supplements, brand can sometimes make a big difference so I want to make sure to get a good one.

                                Thanks!

                                Natalie

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