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Yea!!!! you made it to the one year club. Congrats and keep up the good work (both of you)
Jim/Marijane & Spirit, Newfoundland, born Dec 22, 2007, 115lbs. DX Oct. 2011, 18.5 units Humulin 2x per day. Hills WD kibble, Hills WD can made into gravy, boiled chicken. Spirit passed on June 9, 2016 and it had nothing to do with diabetes.....farewell my buddy.
that year hump is a milestone especially when it is a bit challenging congrats
Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021
Dosage: 13.5 Units of Protaphane and 1.5 units of Humlaog
Date Time Reading Comments
Sat
1-Dec-12 8:55am 24.1/385 Fed at 8am
1-Dec-12 1:15pm 22.4/403
1-Dec-12 3:03pm 15.1/272
1-Dec-12 5:03pm 13.7/247
1-Dec-12 7:03pm 17.6/317
1-Dec-12 7:59pm 20.8/374Fasting then fed at 8
1-Dec-12 10:05pm 26.8/482
Dosage: 14 Units of Protaphane and 1.5 units of Humlaog
Sun
2-Dec-12 08:05am 22.7/409 Fasting
2-Dec-12 09:00am 25.9/466Not an awful rise
2-Dec-12 11:32am 21.1/380coming back down here
2-Dec-12 1:13pm 21.6/389
2-Dec-12 3:13pm 15.4/277
2-Dec-12 5:16pm 10.4/187
2-Dec-12 7:04pm 9/162
2-Dec-12 8:10pm 10.9/196 Fasting then fed after
2-Dec-12 10:05pm 16.1/290about 100 pt rise
2-Dec-12 11:04pm 17.8/320still rising a bit
3-Dec-12 7:56am 17.3/311 Spot Check
4-Dec-12 10:54pm 21.3/383 Spot Check
I am thinking of going to 2 units of Humlaog to try and drop his spike further.
Hi Geoff,
I wouldn't really worry so much about the amount of insulin he's on. If his dose is influenced by a possible borderline Cushings diagnosis, I still wouldn't treat unless there were outward symptoms.
Looks like he's coming down quite a ways into the PM fasting. You might just try increasing the PM Humalog and not the AM for now if this pattern is a repeating trend (looks like Sunday was the 1st day of 14u Protaphane).
Congrats on 1 year into your diabetes journey!!
Patty
Patty and Ali13.5yrs 47lbs diagnosed May '08 Ali earned her wings October 27, 2012, 4 months after diagnosis of a meningioma~ Time is precious ~
Hello, thanks to everyone, yes my heart broke last December when I got a call from the vet saying he has diabetes. I asked what are the "side effects" and he said blindness which I dreaded. All that has since come, and gone and as you can see from my first album photo, he is doing fine and is one spoilt dog! (just ask my wife ha-ha!)
Anyhow, thanks Tara/Patty, on Sunday night he did go lower that Sat after the increase in protaphane so I might try him on 2 units Humalog on Sat morning and see how he goes, he seems to be spiking on the morning feeds!
Geoff
__________________ Geoff & Bailey - 15 September 2002 - 26 June 2014 - Went to the rainbow bridge. He will be sorely missed - Love you Bailey 11 y/o Spoodle dx Dec 2011 - 18 units of Protaphane, 5 units of Humalog, on Prednefrine Forte for his cataracts and Cosopt for his glaucoma
Hello, thanks to everyone, yes my heart broke last December when I got a call from the vet saying he has diabetes. I asked what are the "side effects" and he said blindness which I dreaded. All that has since come, and gone and as you can see from my first album photo, he is doing fine and is one spoilt dog! (just ask my wife ha-ha!)
Anyhow, thanks Tara/Patty, on Sunday night he did go lower that Sat after the increase in protaphane so I might try him on 2 units Humalog on Sat morning and see how he goes, he seems to be spiking on the morning feeds!
Geoff
Hey Geoff, If I understand Patty's approach correctly I like it, and it is the opposite. I don't think he is spiking so much with the morning meal, only 57 points on Sun. 1 hr. out. It is more that he is starting out higher so it takes him longer to get the numbers down. If you were to give the increased dose of the humalog at night that would help him start lower in the morning.
Tara
Tara in honor of Ruby.
She was a courageous Boston Terrier who marched right on through diabetes, megaesophagus, and EPI until 14.
Lucky for both of us we found each other. I'd do it all again girly.
OK thanks, so to clarify again! Raise his Humalog on the PM dose, leave his AM does at 1.5. Sounds fair and I understand the reasoning.
Geoff
__________________ Geoff & Bailey - 15 September 2002 - 26 June 2014 - Went to the rainbow bridge. He will be sorely missed - Love you Bailey 11 y/o Spoodle dx Dec 2011 - 18 units of Protaphane, 5 units of Humalog, on Prednefrine Forte for his cataracts and Cosopt for his glaucoma
OK thanks, so to clarify again! Raise his Humalog on the PM dose, leave his AM does at 1.5. Sounds fair and I understand the reasoning.
Geoff
Yup, it isn't uncommon for some dog's to need a different approach am and pm. The 1 1/2 in the morning looks to be handling the food rise pretty nicely. Hopefully the increased amount in the pm will bring that next mornings fasting down a bit.
Let us know how you make out.
Tara
Tara in honor of Ruby.
She was a courageous Boston Terrier who marched right on through diabetes, megaesophagus, and EPI until 14.
Lucky for both of us we found each other. I'd do it all again girly.
__________________ Geoff & Bailey - 15 September 2002 - 26 June 2014 - Went to the rainbow bridge. He will be sorely missed - Love you Bailey 11 y/o Spoodle dx Dec 2011 - 18 units of Protaphane, 5 units of Humalog, on Prednefrine Forte for his cataracts and Cosopt for his glaucoma
It's that 100 point rise that keeps rising into hour 3 from your PM curve that I'd want to track. He starts lower at 10.9/196 so you'd want to be sure this is a trend for him to rise that far. But I think given the PM rise, increasing the Humalog could help keep the numbers down and you'd have a better AM fasting.
If you do get a lower AM fasting, you'll have to watch the protaphane dose because his Sunday curve brings him from 22.7/409 to a low of 9/162 on 14u. That's a large span.
Patty and Ali13.5yrs 47lbs diagnosed May '08 Ali earned her wings October 27, 2012, 4 months after diagnosis of a meningioma~ Time is precious ~
It's that 100 point rise that keeps rising into hour 3 from your PM curve that I'd want to track. He starts lower at 10.9/196 so you'd want to be sure this is a trend for him to rise that far. But I think given the PM rise, increasing the Humalog could help keep the numbers down and you'd have a better AM fasting.
If you do get a lower AM fasting, you'll have to watch the protaphane dose because his Sunday curve brings him from 22.7/409 to a low of 9/162 on 14u. That's a large span.
May I see the whole curve, I would love to see the whole picture thanks
I just found the curve thanks
May I see the whole curve, I would love to see the whole picture thanks
I just found the curve thanks
My girls curves before were so similar to yours. i decided to change her food before doing anything with the insulin. It worked beautifully. I am going to do one more curve because if it still looks the same as the last their may be some change in the insulin by just a tiny bit lower. I am finding the food plays such a big part in this whole big picture.
Hello, yes, tried changing his food, only made things worse for me! He ended up going high by 4-5pm (high as in 500+) but he seems to be much more stable now. It's all a but of a juggling exercise!!
Thanks,
Geoff
__________________ Geoff & Bailey - 15 September 2002 - 26 June 2014 - Went to the rainbow bridge. He will be sorely missed - Love you Bailey 11 y/o Spoodle dx Dec 2011 - 18 units of Protaphane, 5 units of Humalog, on Prednefrine Forte for his cataracts and Cosopt for his glaucoma
__________________ Geoff & Bailey - 15 September 2002 - 26 June 2014 - Went to the rainbow bridge. He will be sorely missed - Love you Bailey 11 y/o Spoodle dx Dec 2011 - 18 units of Protaphane, 5 units of Humalog, on Prednefrine Forte for his cataracts and Cosopt for his glaucoma
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