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Old 10-29-2021, 02:12 AM
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it would be helpful to post here the latest curve Before you make any changes in food or insulin.

dropping back when he is high might not be the best approach.
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Old 10-29-2021, 02:14 AM
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I see that makes sense. my dog is sitting around high more often than I would like. It does drop him at least around the 500s during peak last time I used three... though I kept changing how much insulin I've injected him and I've decided I need to stop that and learn to have some patience.


Home made used to work really well for Odie but now it doesn't really anymore. He does enjoy the more protein focused diets though since there was a time he refused to eat anymore and we did have a few spare can of hill's for him. With Hill's he worked really well around 4- 3.5 units of insulin.



I've ordered some kibble with grains in there. So hopefully those will help stave off the drops he gets if I do increase his insulin dosage over time to around better levels.


This was my latest curve. I didn't have many strips around and was busy:


6:00 am 725


I used 5 m/l injection with Novolin N


8:00 am - 577


600 am 209 (I became really uncomfortable with seeing 200 at this point of time)


I used 2 m/l injection with novolin N at 6:00 pm


7:00 pm - 344


8:00 pm - 401


6:00 pm High

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Old 10-29-2021, 02:21 AM
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yes its very important to wait 7 days when u make any changes. you cant change Odies insulin amount everyday. even foid changes u need to wait.

after 7 days do a curve, Then make changes according to the lowest number.

keep testing.

post any curves here please.

please dont make any changes until we look at the curve or take the curve to the vets office.
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Old 10-29-2021, 02:31 AM
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I posted my latest curve in the edit. Hope it helps.
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Old 10-29-2021, 02:47 AM
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all info helps thanks.

you injected 5 units at 6am then 2 units at 6pm

please stop changing the insulin! its not helping him.

if he did well on 4 units stick with 4 units twice a day after food. wait 7 days no changes at all keep insulin at 4.

keep testing. post here his numbers in 3 days
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Old 10-29-2021, 02:52 AM
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remember your using a longer lasting insulin suppise to be injected same amount twice a day. its not a fast acting R insulin where you can change the amount.

if Odies under 200 after feeding , test wait till hes over 200 before you inject. dont change the amount of insulin.
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Old 10-29-2021, 02:55 AM
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Would it be better if I settled for 3.5 instead? The food I'm giving him is quite different from Hill's. At least ratio wise/calorie wise. Though this has a higher calorie.



EditL he was in the 200's before feeding. He hasn't hit the 100's before feeding for awhile now.


Well. He's still High at the moment. I guess I'll stick with 4 and do a curve today.

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Old 11-09-2021, 06:13 AM
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Just wanted to post an update regarding my dog.


I switched foods to canned wellness lamb and beef stew /w brown rice.


I did an blood sugar curve with that food the first time I tried and have used it for week.



I found these past 3 days nph 5 m/l injection has worked really well for this food.


My dog sometimes likes wandering around the house for a few hours when he's awake so sometime he's around the 200's to 190's at the end. So I wait around 10 minutes to inject him after he's done with his food which is usually where he hits the 300s.


In any case his blood sugar at the end has been ranging to mid low 300's to 200s at the end.



So far so good.
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Old 11-09-2021, 11:22 PM
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Hopefully that does the trick

If you have a stable pattern established and the numbers are at the level you posted you maybe able to increase by a quarter to half a unit . Small Increments maybe less of a problem for the body .

Fingers and paws crossed
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:58 AM
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Could you post the readings you have with times and insulin amounts?

I'd be interested to see what shape the curve is now and whether the insulin seems to be lasting a full 12 hours.

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