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Old 07-13-2009, 07:30 AM
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Debbie,

The high bg's can be from the possible pancreatitis and also possible because of the hyperlipidemia. The hyperlipidemia could be the cause of pancreatitis.

Sometimes part of the treatment for pancreatitis is not to give anything by mouth for a time period set by your vet--nil per os (nothing via mouth). This allows the pancreas to "rest" a bit and try to recover.

http://petdiabetes.wikia.com/wiki/Pancreatitis

Part of this treatment can be giving sub-Q fluids because they "bypass" the oral route.

I'd tell your vet about Apollo's high bg's on the urine strips and get his/her advice about increasing his insulin and by how much. My worry is that he's throwing up the morning meal and that doesn't leave anything for the morning insulin to work on.

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Old 07-13-2009, 07:57 AM
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I'm beginning to feel like a juggler!

Apollo has had the 'IV' treatment twice.
This was at the very beginning of our journey. pancreatitis then diabetes.

I have called and we'll be at the Vet at 2 PM. I wish there was a pill to make him all better... how much to put him through ???
OK -- one step at a time -- we can do this!

I'll touch base this evening - thanks for listening.

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Anxious to hear what the vet says... did they put him on a bland diet?

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Old 07-13-2009, 04:20 PM
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Back from the vet -- after another bill -- but who's counting

We are doing a blood workup that will be back tomorrow - at the vet his glucose was 151 --at 2:30 PM - not too bad for Apollo -- I was beginning to think maybe he was high and that's what was causing the symptoms.
Kathy, no change in his insulin dose.

The vet feels he may be at the beginnings of an infection... possibly UT, or an infection of bladder lining (Apollo has a history of bladder stones).
So far when I've tested his urine nothing alarming has shown up.
But as the vet said -- something isn't right so....

We came home with an antiobiodic - Enroflovacin -- ah and something for his eyes (Neo-Poly-Gram) -- both eyes were very bloodshot (I am sorry to admit I didn't catch that).
I am going to continue giving the Pepcid - more for prevention than anything else.

As for a bland diet Natalie -- he is on W/D dry and canned -- the vet suggested we not change at the moment.

He is resting at the moment - ate dinner fine and got his PM insulin dose. In a bit I need to wake him for his pill --

We made an outing to Pet Smart after the vet as we needed food - plus, he likes to go and check out the other dogs -- we meet a cute 2 yr old female yorkie that looked just Apollo. The little yorkie came from a breeder that turns them over to the SPCA after they are used up as breeding machines.... poor thing -- she was so scared, but really perked up when Apollo came over to her.

thanks again everyone -- I'll keep you posted -- we hope to get on the road to Florida at the end of the week, we planned to go down and help pack up our sons house -- if all goes OK with Apollo I'll be going -- if we have another rough morning, just my hubby will go.

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Old 07-13-2009, 04:41 PM
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Debbie,

Glad to hear that Apollo's on the way to getting better with the meds!

Right now, I don't even want to think "bladder stones". About a month ago, my guy here had 120+ very small ones removed. He was giving us no real signals they were there, either.

Good to hear Apollo's bg's weren't as high as you thought they were. I think your guy's gonna start walking on the road to recovery from this one!

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Old 07-14-2009, 11:17 AM
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Today we took both of the dogs for grooming.
Our grommers great and is very sensitive about Apollo - so Apollo goes in while I wait and the groomer brings him right back to me -- our grommer is located at the vets office. The groomer also noticed that Apollo tummy is a bit extended.

The vet had the test results back from the blood and we went over the numbers while we were there.
Apollo's glucose was just about the only thing that looked good.
His cholesterol and triglycerides were both higher than when we ran the last blood work.

It looks like the possibility of Cushings maybe be the next thing to re-test for.
I used to go on the Cushings forum before I found this forum... can't seem to get on it right now so I'll have to take some time and hunt down the problem.

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It looks like the possibility of Cushings maybe be the next thing to re-test for.
I used to go on the Cushings forum before I found this forum... can't seem to get on it right now so I'll have to take some time and hunt down the problem.

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I think you've figured out that the Cushing's forum has moved because I just noticed that you have registered there (at the new site) and your membership has now been approved. The previous owner closed the old site without any warning (which is why you couldn't get on there). We had a temporary "home" here for a while (thanks to Natalie!) while a group of Moderators from the old cushings board got together and built a new forum/message board at http://www.k9cushings.com/forum.

Hoping you are not also dealing with Cushing's, but if you are, successfully treating both Cushing's and Diabetes together can definitely be done.
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With good blood sugar control, I'm doubtful about a Cushings diagnosis. Have them run the ACTH instead of the LDDS as that is a better test for dogs with other health problems.

It doesn't hurt to check but usually you can't get the kind of good blood sugar Apollo has when Cushings is present.

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Hi Debbie,

Sorry to hear that Apollo is having problems.

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It looks like the possibility of Cushings maybe be the next thing to re-test for.
Hoping it's not cushings but like Cushy said if it is both diseases can be treated successfully.

Good luck with the testing and keep us posted. Hugs to you and Apollo.
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:24 AM
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Natalie thanks for the insight -- there are SO many things to consider.
Apollo had a rough afternoon & evening - he did throw up around 2:30 PM yesterday and then he had no interest in any food. Around 5 PM (his usual insulin time) I got him to eat some canned food (Sci Diet Lite - which is the can food we give Atlas)
I figured in order to give the shot that was better than nothing.
The food stayed down but the "runs" were full force -- he usually has a hard time with antibiodics.

We were out 'going -or trying to go' about every 1 1/2 hrs last night. This morning I cooked up a chicken breast - gave him about 2 tablespoons of it with some of his regular can food -- he did eat and so far it's stayed down.
I reduced his insulin to be on the safe side - only gave him 5 units.

I have a call into the vet-- today is her day off -- I am beginning to think the ultrasound will be the next step.

I am going to go back and read for some of the home meals other feed their babies.

thanks for listening.

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