Diabetes in Dogs: The k9diabetes.com Forum
 

Go Back   Diabetes in Dogs: The k9diabetes.com Forum > Diabetes Discussion: Your Dog

Diabetes Discussion: Your Dog Anything related to your diabetic dog.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-08-2021, 07:27 AM
Rob3ddd's Avatar
Rob3ddd Rob3ddd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 15
Default New member Earl

My dog (50% chiawaha/Jack Russell) started insulin therapy about 2-3 weeks ago.
Earl is much better than before and gets 2 injections a day after meals.
Now that his glucose is more under control Iíd like to improve his diet so hopefully he requires less insulin and gets healthy nutrition.
Ive not had much luck finding nutrition requirements or consistent opinions.
Donít feed him this then next article says itís safe and healthy.
I try small portions of new food and see how Earl reacts.
Iíd like to see a painless method of getting blood glucose readings and insulin injections but so far nothing seems to be available.
If thereís any new delivery systems that are reliable please post.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-08-2021, 07:40 AM
jesse girl's Avatar
jesse girl jesse girl is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 8,533
Default Re: New member Earl

Hi and welcome to you and Earl

Can you tell us what type of insulin you are using and how many units ? What type of food are you feeding Earl ?
__________________
Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-08-2021, 03:59 PM
Rob3ddd's Avatar
Rob3ddd Rob3ddd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 15
Default Re: New member Earl

I’m giving Earl 5 units U-40 of vetsulin twice a day every 12 hours after meals.

I’m feeding him 4 ounces of equal amounts of chicken,brown rice, and cauliflower for each meal.
After meal he gets a teaspoon of Greek yogurt and half a teaspoon of canned pumpkin.Also I started giving him a teaspoon of Alaska salmon right after meals.

He gets his favorite treat after injections only which are Denstix.
I give him small amounts of raw broccoli mid meals but lately tiny pinches of salmon or half a teaspoon of yogurt.

My vet basically said to keep diet consistent and after next blood test if glucose remains stable using diet will be next.

In the beginning he had some problems eating everything but now he sits and waits for meals and doesn’t leave a grain of rice in bowl.
I used to give him 2% milk when he begged for treats but he hasn’t had any 2% milk since his diagnosis.
I have been successful getting insulin into him but it’s the worst part for me.I have been successful giving him shot by myself but it’s easier with 2 people.
He is small,quick,intelligent and strong.So stay commands must be constant from beginning until I calm him down and massage injection site.He enjoys the injection site massages and making tents without the pokes.
I have had injections where he didn’t seem to even realize he got a shot but then other times he feels the insulin going in.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-08-2021, 04:17 PM
Rob3ddd's Avatar
Rob3ddd Rob3ddd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 15
Default Re: New member Earl

It seems like the brown rice,cauliflower and chicken is satisfying his hunger but it doesnít last long enough.
The diet got started when his first symptoms started he tore the stuffings out of a pillow and I thought he had intestinal blockage and he was straining to have movements and was having cramps.
The vet kept him overnight and gave him 2 X-ray and things started moving and he got better but 3 days later I could tell he wasnít feeling good.Then it would improve and 2-3 days later back so took him back to vet still on brown rice and chicken diet.
Once his glucose got down to 150 using same diet I kept it consistent and that was the first goal.
Next is diet.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-08-2021, 04:36 PM
jesse girl's Avatar
jesse girl jesse girl is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 8,533
Default Re: New member Earl

The diet sounds adequate and appears to be working with injected insulin . It really doesnt matter how much insulin you are given ( higher or lower ) as long as its controlling blood sugar adequately . I dont think you are dealing with pain for the most part as some dogs dont like there space invaded

My jesse doesnt use vetsulin and uses Nph (human ) insulin . This gives more oppurtunity to use different size syringes that vetsulin does not give with shorter and thinner needles which have less impact at injection . There maybe more types for vetsulin now as the last time jesse had vetsulin was over 10 years ago and it was very limited at that time . So if the needle is fairly long and thick you may want to hunt around for something more appropriate for your smaller dog . You can use the u-100 syringes ( used for NPH ) but you have to convert the correct dose and make sure your vet understands that and everybody else involved

Your off to a good start . Many take months to get to good numbers .

Home testing would be a benefit but it takes a bit more work to get everybody comfortable with a smaller dog .
__________________
Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-08-2021, 07:10 PM
Rob3ddd's Avatar
Rob3ddd Rob3ddd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 15
Default Re: New member Earl

Thanks for encouragement.

I was trying to find some safety retractable syringes so that after the injection needle gets sucked up into syringe and they are only available in U-100.
My vet said he would have to order them and calibrate with the ones used and then I decided to wait until I could go to town and see if I could see them in person for they were rather expensive.
I then had several successful injections without pain so until weather clears up and I can go to supply company better use what is working.

Is it possible to ever control glucose with diet only and eliminate insulin or is it rare?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-09-2021, 08:22 PM
Rob3ddd's Avatar
Rob3ddd Rob3ddd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 15
Default Re: New member Earl

I think I can improve the clamp Iíve been using.
Itís similar to a chip bag clip but if thereís enough loose skin it makes a nice mound.More like a Twinkie shape and I have poked parallel to the body and he didnít seem to feel it and the plunger went in very smoothly.
Iíll post a picture and show how it works on myself and maybe someone will have ideas.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-09-2021, 08:38 PM
Rob3ddd's Avatar
Rob3ddd Rob3ddd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 15
Default Re: New member Earl

I few questions I have and thanks for the suggestions.
The grooming hammock is a good idea.
I have noticed that sometimes the plunger feels like it doesnít want to push in easily as it should so I did a repoke and it glided in easy.
If plunger feels like it has too much resistance is that a sign you could be in a muscle?
Also Earl started having an odor like something was wrong with diet.
Not from him necessarily but lingering in house.
I started giving him small amounts of salmon and two days the odor is gone.
It was a slight fecal odor Iíve smelled in dog kennel but Earl has never smelled like that.
Could the salmon have gave him something he was needing?
2-3 weeks on rice,chicken and cauliflower is likely missing needed supplement or minerals??
Earls eyes donít seem the same at times but he didnít sleep good last night because water was slightly running to avoid freezing up.
Maybe he is just tired today?
My sister noticed it also and said his eyes look just like her dog did that also had diabetes??
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-09-2021, 10:05 PM
Rob3ddd's Avatar
Rob3ddd Rob3ddd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 15
Default Re: New member Earl

Hereís a few pictures.
One is Earl and the clamp is on the tricep area.
I donít see any way to post pictures.
Unless Iím missing something I canít find any attachment or picture loading menus.
Is there a way to post pictures?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-09-2021, 10:15 PM
Rob3ddd's Avatar
Rob3ddd Rob3ddd is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 15
Default Re: New member Earl

I see it says I canít post attachments and maybe thatís a new member restriction?
Iíll read through forum rules and maybe itíll make requirements for posting pictures clear.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:23 AM.


Disclaimer -- The content on this site is provided for informational and educational purposes only. While we make every effort to present information that is accurate and reliable, the views expressed here are not meant to be a substitute for the advice provided by a licensed veterinarian. Please consult with your veterinarian for specific advice concerning the medical condition or treatment of your pet and before administering any medication or pursuing any course of treatment that you may read about on this site.

The views and opinions expressed by contributors to this forum are strictly their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and views of the owners, administrators, or moderators of this forum and the k9diabetes.com website.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009, 2010 k9diabetes.com. All rights reserved.