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[KathyAAllen]

Re: Roscoe's curve 5/10/14

Well, all the numbers could come down some. The lowest numbers probably would be better if in the mid 100s, so maybe ½ unit increase at both times might be nice. Hopefully, that ½ unit might also bring down the high numbers out of the 400s. Some think a good goal would be to have a 150 - 300 range for most of the day.

I don't recall, are you using a human meter or AlphaTrak?

Craig

I'm using the alphatrak2.

The numbers were in the 200's couple days this week after that increase, i dont know why they went back up.

[Riliey and Mo]

Re: Update on Roscoe

I, m thinking add in some exercise a walk around 2pm. This might bring his numbers down

Does he get a snack halfway at 1pm?

[KathyAAllen]

Re: Update on Roscoe

I, m thinking add in some exercise a walk around 2pm. This might bring his numbers down

Does he get a snack halfway at 1pm?

I come home on my lunch break between 12-1, they get a piece chicken jerky treat (made in usa)

Would more of a snack help his bg go lower? What type of snack?

I walk dogs for bout 10 mins before work bout 720am and again at night after dinner and insulin.

[Riliey and Mo]

Re: Update on Roscoe

Mmm think we found a culprit, its the jerky and maybe the chicken
Thats whats maybe causing the higher numbers in the afternoon!

Stop that treat maybe substitute green beans, brocolli not much fora mid day snack treat. See what Roscoe, s bg numbers r in a couple of days kk

Can u walk Roscoe 10 to 15 minutes around noon?

[KathyAAllen]

Re: Update on Roscoe

Mmm think we found a culprit, its the jerky and maybe the chicken
Thats whats maybe causing the higher numbers in the afternoon!

Stop that treat maybe substitute green beans, brocolli not much fora mid day snack treat. See what Roscoe, s bg numbers r in a couple of days kk

Can u walk Roscoe 10 to 15 minutes around noon?

ok will try green beans for snack, instead of jerky treat.

My break is an hour, its a 20 min drive home 20 mins at home then 20 mins back if all goes well. lol I dont know if i can get a walk in in that 20 mins but can try...

Funny thing is on the days i have to work through my lunch break, his numbers at night are usually lower than when i come home.

Was thinking maybe he gets too excited seeing me home and that raises his bg....

Do you agree with a 1/2 increase is dose?

[amydunn19]

Re: Update on Roscoe

Kathy,

I think he just adjusted to the higher dose and it settled pretty quick. That happens during the regulation process. You do a small increase and things go lower for a couple of days then the body adjusts and it goes back up.

I say go up 1/2 and wait 5-7 days for another curve. I am glad to finally see somewhat lower numbers for Roscoe.

Amy

[CraigM]

Re: Update on Roscoe

Funny thing is on the days i have to work through my lunch break, his numbers at night are usually lower than when i come home.

Sort of makes sense that days alone might be different than weekends, or if you come home mid-day. I figure most pups will be very inactive when alone (yea, there are those who will "destroy" the house, but most will just sleep?). I'm pretty sure I've seen that Annie will have a higher diner fasting number if she spent the day alone. This sounds like the opposite of what you've seen, but "every dog is different".

Although some pups might benefit from a mid day walk, or snack I would probably avoid depending on things like that unless you can count on doing it 365 days a year. I would hate to have Annie regulated with a mid day meal / snack and find myself on the other side of the city at the snack time and be worrying that she would go too low without the snack. Yea, some use an automatic dispensing food dish and that might work.

Craig

[KathyAAllen]

Re: Update on Roscoe

Sort of makes sense that days alone might be different than weekends, or if you come home mid-day. I figure most pups will be very inactive when alone (yea, there are those who will "destroy" the house, but most will just sleep?). I'm pretty sure I've seen that Annie will have a higher diner fasting number if she spent the day alone. This sounds like the opposite of what you've seen, but "every dog is different".

Although some pups might benefit from a mid day walk, or snack I would probably avoid depending on things like that unless you can count on doing it 365 days a year. I would hate to have Annie regulated with a mid day meal / snack and find myself on the other side of the city at the snack time and be worrying that she would go too low without the snack. Yea, some use an automatic dispensing food dish and that might work.

Craig

Yea thats my problem, im a teacher and depends on coverage if i can get away for a full hour break, some days lately weve had a few teachers call out on same day, so ive had to stay and cover....i have to accept as much OT as i can to pay for all this extra meds/supplies Roscoe needs. So i dont want to start something i cant do everyday.

Roscoe loved the green beans i hope thats a good snack to give on my break/when leaving house instead of the chicken jerky.

I went up a 1/2 unit this morning, with the walk and green beans, hes down to 264
7am 412
12;45 321
6:38pm 264

thanks for your suggestions
Kathy

[KathyAAllen]

Re: Update on Roscoe

Upped Insulin 1/2 unit both morning and night, still getting high morning bg level....

Increase more at night???
I know you all have said not to worry about going higher on insulin but it scares me, i dont want to give him too much.


Sunday 5/11
7:00am 412
12:45 321
6:38pm 264
10:50pm335

Monday 5/12
7:00am 287
12:28pm 371
7:20pm 306

Tuesday 5/13
6:50am 543
6:40pm 319

Wednesday 5/14
6:40am 565

[KathyAAllen]

Curve at night or day??

hi all,
It's been a while since i posted, hope you all are good.

Just a quick question,
Roscoe's bg is still way high in the mornings between 400-600, night one has been 200-300. He's currently on 14 units both night and day.

It's been a while since i did a curve, should i do one during the day or at night, since he's bg is higher in morning??

I've kept everything bout the same, he does get a longer walk at night then in morning, could more exercise make him higher?
I've noticed on days/nights we dont exercise, it still runs higher.
I dont know if i need to increase the insulin at night?
As usual, vet isnt any help....

more later, late for work, as usual

Kathy

[CraigM]

Re: Update on Roscoe

Some folks have run overnight curves, and I'm sure a night curve might be a little different from a day curve. Most pups will likely be less active during the night so it sort of makes sense to me that their insulin needs might be a little different.

After Annie has her dinner, she curls up on either the sofa or her puppy bed and hardly moves until breakfast. Come to think about it, I follow about the same routine! I figure this lack of movement is the exact opposite of exercise and affects her BG. I've never done a full blown night curve, but since her morning tests were usually higher than her daytime numbers, I've increased her dinner time insulin by 1/4 unit. Seems to help.

Craig

[jesse girl]

Re: Update on Roscoe

i think a night time curve would be helpful

maybe your pup is dropping pretty hard leaving you with a possible higher fasting . maybe you just see a rise after dinner and it stays elevated throughout the night

the problem is you dont know so basing a dose on just the fasting number in the morning that is usually quite different from the dinner fating makes it difficult to do

[KathyAAllen]

Night curve....

im starting a night curve tonight! Well see if i can stay awake/wake up every 2 hrs, but rest of weekend my grandson will be over and i dont want that excitement effecting the curve.

I'm still feeling frustrated that next month will be 1 yr since he became diabetic, i was really hoping he'd be regulated by now. He seems happy and still active, although hes always been my lazy boy! lol

6:45am bg test 573
7;04 1 cup WD with few boiled chicken pieces
14 units insulin
**no morning walk as i was running late for work**
730am 2 blue buffalo chicken bites when i left for work

130pm no test *my lunchbreak*
2 blue buffalo chicken bites when i went back to work

657pm bg test 252
7;05 1 cup WD with boiled chicken pieces
7:15 14 units insulin
8:15-8:45pm walk at park

9:15pm bg test 238
11:15pm bg test 314

more to come
im trying to post as much info as i can so you guys can help me figure out whats going on....
thank you!!
Kathy

[KathyAAllen]

made a liar out of me grrrr

Well Roscoe made a liar out of me, after a night curve, every 2 hrs, he has a 235 this morning!!

Friday 8/8
6:45am bg test 573
7;04 1 cup WD with few boiled chicken pieces
14 units insulin
**no morning walk as i was running late for work**
730am 2 blue buffalo chicken bites when i left for work

130pm no test *my lunchbreak*
2 blue buffalo chicken bites when i went back to work

657pm bg test 252
7;05 1 cup WD with boiled chicken pieces
7:15 14 units insulin
8:15-8:45pm walk at park

9:15pm bg test 238
got into cat litter box for a snack ggrrrr dunno why he does that!11:15pm bg test 314
1:15am bg test 376
3:15am bg test 210
5:15am bg test 274
7:15am bg test 235

So now what? Reviewing my journal to see if there's a pattern.....

[jesse girl]

Re: made a liar out of me grrrr

maybe the cat litter snack made the difference in stabilizing blood sugar

i have seen with my jesse if she starts out higher she will have a lower fasting

if she starts out lower she will be higher and most times that is a consistent trend . i was giving her a fast acting when she was lower but wasnt very comfortable with that .

just recently i have been giving jesse some of teppies (my daughters pup visiting for the summer ) wellness core kibbles added to her partially raw diet just to see what would happen . i havent played with food much for a while .

well to my surprise the rise was greatly reduced blood sugar was more stable . it seems to be 90 percent effective maybe more.

now cat litter may not be the choice to stabilize blood sugar but there maybe something else that may do the job that you maybe able to add to the meal .

another thought about going into the liter box there maybe something in the diet missing my jesse enjoys rabbit pooh maybe its a probiotic for her. little teppie will hunt it down also

in the world of blood sugar stable blood sugar is best. excellent would be a 100 points or lower from low to high for the day

when you have blood sugar going from 250 to 550 and doing the same thing in reverse is not stable blood sugar and many times this is a food equation to fix . dosing may not do much to change the pattern

it takes time to figure what can be added to help .maybe more complex carbs or fiber sometime highly digestible carbs can help in certain situations . it appears meat protein does not do much for regulation its needed for part of the diet but using it to improve regulation appears to have no real positive affect

so what you think maybe a problem may have been a gift and a possible direction to go