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  • #16
    Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

    Hi Shasta'sMommy.
    I had the same problem with my boy for a while. First I'd tempt him by sprinkling a little grated parmesan cheese on top of his regular food. I also tried using a little of the juice from a can of tuna, the kind that comes in water. Maybe wet his food, if dry with a little low/no sodium chicken broth. As a treat I sometimes give Chuck, PureBite Freeze Dried Chicken. If all other temptations failed, I could crush up a few pieces of the freeze dried chicken and drop on top of his food and he would eat.
    I admit there were times when I had to reapply whatever topper I used, in order to get him to finish, but I could usually get him to eat all of his breakfast using one of these toppers.
    Chuck-108 lb male Rottweiler, 8 years old. Dx Sept. 24, 2014. 22.5 units of Novolin N 2 x a day. Alpha Track 2. 2 1/2 cup Purina OM Select Blend, 2 x a day. Also mom to 2 Boxer boys, I love my 3 boys-chucksmom aka Kim

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    • #17
      Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

      Hello there. well he eats wet hills prescription canine g/d food and I usually top it with a little boiled chicken. He loved it and I never had a problem with him not wanting to eat it in the past until now! Now I have to put a little bit of dog food, some rice and then the chicken for him to eat it! And that's for dinner, for breakfast he backs away from his food dish as if iTS going to eat him!
      Shasta - 10 year old Japanese Chin, diagnosed with Diabetes December 2013. Currently at 8.5 units of Novolin N insulin twice daily. Still working on being regulated! On Hills Prescription G/D canned food with boiled chicken breast and topped with 1/2 egg whites and peas... Has a history of calcium oxalate stones, liver issues and pancreatitis.

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      • #18
        Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

        His tummy may not be quiet right. I meant to mention this in the post above, but forgot, senior brain freeze, lol
        I also give Chuck 20 mg of Famotidine(brand name-pepcid) 30 minutes before each meal. Seems to help. Chuck weighs over 100 lbs so your dosage will be different. I'm not sure how much your boy weighs but the usual dosage is 0.25 to 0.5 mg per pound.
        Here is a link I found very helpful for dosing our pets with over the counter drugs.

        http://www.walkervalleyvet.com/otc-meds.htm
        Chuck-108 lb male Rottweiler, 8 years old. Dx Sept. 24, 2014. 22.5 units of Novolin N 2 x a day. Alpha Track 2. 2 1/2 cup Purina OM Select Blend, 2 x a day. Also mom to 2 Boxer boys, I love my 3 boys-chucksmom aka Kim

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        • #19
          Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

          my jesse only get one meal a day and a snack . if its something your not able to get him motivated with this is an option just let me know if you want to explain what we do for jesse

          we did not do this because of appetite issue but other challenges she had and a bonus it helped with her blood sugar
          Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
          Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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          • #20
            Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

            So Jesse girl you only give 1 insulin shot a day? What kind of insulin is your dog on? And chucksmom, I'm so gonna try a little Parmesan cheese. He loves cheese and I have no problem with giving him cheese cause that he'll eat! Only real problem with that is he has calcium oxalate stones thus the calcium in cheese!
            Shasta - 10 year old Japanese Chin, diagnosed with Diabetes December 2013. Currently at 8.5 units of Novolin N insulin twice daily. Still working on being regulated! On Hills Prescription G/D canned food with boiled chicken breast and topped with 1/2 egg whites and peas... Has a history of calcium oxalate stones, liver issues and pancreatitis.

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            • #21
              Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

              Originally posted by Shasta'sMommy View Post
              So Jesse girl you only give 1 insulin shot a day? What kind of insulin is your dog on? And chucksmom, I'm so gonna try a little Parmesan cheese. He loves cheese and I have no problem with giving him cheese cause that he'll eat! Only real problem with that is he has calcium oxalate stones thus the calcium in cheese!
              the relion brand from wallmart its nph insulin . i actually give 2 shots her insulin lasts only 18 hours . it would have been nice just to give on shot close but no cigar . so in the morning i give her a reduced shot and a milk bone . her numbers were ok without any food but the milk bone really improves things and she likes the forbidden diabetes milk bone as her normal everyday routine

              so there is flexibility . you can feed less food something else a small snack or meal . you just have to adjust the dose and be consistent and test blood sugar to see what works . its preferable not having to change things everyday something that can be consumed every day

              for me and its just my opinion if its a daily battle i would like to find an alternative . if its just a temporary thing then maybe you can just roll through it till things return to normal
              Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
              Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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              • #22
                Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                We had success with a microwaved scrambled egg. My neighbor whose dog has Addison uses a wee bit of pumpkin.
                Laura & Charlie 29 lb male lhasapoo diagnosed October 2013. 16ish units of Novolin N. 1 & 1/3 cup of Natural Balance Fat Dog twice a day. An egg with breakfast and chicken with dinner. Shares string cheese with us late afternoon. Cyclosporine ointment for KCS. Blind from cataracts January 2014. Crossed the rainbow bridge 2/1/2016 at 14.5 years

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                • #23
                  Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                  Hi all, well I'm getting my boy to eat thank god! I've been blending up some boiled chicken, rice and some of his dog food topped with half a boiled egg whites only no yolk!) and he's been eating it. Breakfast is such a chore now though! I'll do whatever for my boy though cause he's definately worth it!
                  Shasta - 10 year old Japanese Chin, diagnosed with Diabetes December 2013. Currently at 8.5 units of Novolin N insulin twice daily. Still working on being regulated! On Hills Prescription G/D canned food with boiled chicken breast and topped with 1/2 egg whites and peas... Has a history of calcium oxalate stones, liver issues and pancreatitis.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                    If you want to check out the dogfood advisor.com and see what others have found for their dog to eat that has calcium oxcalate stone

                    glad he,s eating in the mornings. I,m not that with it in the mornings either but i get my Riliey fed and injected.
                    Riliey . aka Ralphy, Alice, Big Boy
                    20 lb male. 5 1/2 nph insulin. 1/2 cup fromms. black cockapoo, dx Apr 2012 . 5 1\2 yrs diabetic. 2000 to 2017

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                    • #25
                      Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                      Jinx never saw a morsel of food she didn't want until she got diabetes. We had to buy one of those bowls to slow her down. She would go nuts while I prepped the food and at the ready as soon as it went down to her bowl stand.

                      Now it can be hit or miss, but if she is picky, it is usually in the AM. Sometimes she hears me finish up mixing (I mix wet and dry right now) and she'll be in position to wolf it down. Other times I need to call her in and she will walk over to the bowl, look at it, and look up at me like "I need to eat this?".

                      For whatever reason, giving her a glob in my hand will get her to eat if she isn't interested at first. It is like she doesn't trust it. Sometimes she will also take a mouthful so she can drop it on the ground and then eat it back up. She will do that once...again, like she doesn't trust the contents and needs to check it. Other times she will leave pills behind.

                      In Jinx's case, I think she is also just getting old. She is an 11 year old Rottie. I think her joints are finally starting to bother her a bit. Maybe she just doesn't feel very well in the AM. In the PM, she rarely has an issue eating, but still isn't as "food oriented" as she used to be.

                      Of course I've also struggled with dosing her too. She is usually running a bit high.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                        So we are back to square 1! Back to fighting over breakfast and me begging him to eat! What is it with breakfast time?! Sheesh! An egg doesn't work for the past 2 mornings and neither does some grated cheese cause he just licks it off! I finally got him to eat just some boiled chicken and rice. Which is already in his food mixture that I make every morning! this is giving me anxiety especially knowing that I'll be going on a vacation from Wednesday to Sunday and he's gonna be with grandma and grandpa! We were doing so good for about a week or little over and now this again! I think I'm going to try and boil him some hamburger and see how that goes for breakfast, is ground turkey better though? It can't be fatty because he has a history of pancreatitis. HELP!!
                        Shasta - 10 year old Japanese Chin, diagnosed with Diabetes December 2013. Currently at 8.5 units of Novolin N insulin twice daily. Still working on being regulated! On Hills Prescription G/D canned food with boiled chicken breast and topped with 1/2 egg whites and peas... Has a history of calcium oxalate stones, liver issues and pancreatitis.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                          I would definitely go with ground turkey over ground beef. Also, have you tried baby food? They make some meat flavors without onions that work really well.
                          Sparky Love, diagnosed March 5, 2014. Enrolled in Kinostat study to prevent cataract formation. Pancreatitis June 16, 2014 - hospitalized for 6 days in the ICU. Went to the Rainbow Bridge June 23, 2014. I love you very much, baby.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                            I've read that ground turkey is fatty? Fattier than chicken?
                            Shasta - 10 year old Japanese Chin, diagnosed with Diabetes December 2013. Currently at 8.5 units of Novolin N insulin twice daily. Still working on being regulated! On Hills Prescription G/D canned food with boiled chicken breast and topped with 1/2 egg whites and peas... Has a history of calcium oxalate stones, liver issues and pancreatitis.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                              Ground skinless turkey breast shouldn't be fatty at all. About the same as chicken.
                              Sparky Love, diagnosed March 5, 2014. Enrolled in Kinostat study to prevent cataract formation. Pancreatitis June 16, 2014 - hospitalized for 6 days in the ICU. Went to the Rainbow Bridge June 23, 2014. I love you very much, baby.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Breakfast nightmares!!

                                Originally posted by Shasta'sMommy View Post
                                So we are back to square 1! Back to fighting over breakfast and me begging him to eat! What is it with breakfast time?! Sheesh! An egg doesn't work for the past 2 mornings and neither does some grated cheese cause he just licks it off! I finally got him to eat just some boiled chicken and rice. Which is already in his food mixture that I make every morning! this is giving me anxiety especially knowing that I'll be going on a vacation from Wednesday to Sunday and he's gonna be with grandma and grandpa! We were doing so good for about a week or little over and now this again! I think I'm going to try and boil him some hamburger and see how that goes for breakfast, is ground turkey better though? It can't be fatty because he has a history of pancreatitis. HELP!!
                                If you get very lean ground beef and rinse with boiling water, I think beef is fine.

                                We went through times where Chris did this - not just breakfast - he would turn up his nose at what he'd been eating, we'd give him something else, and that would work for a few days or a week or two and then he'd turn his nose up at that.

                                We used all kinds of stuff. There were a few - very few in the scheme of things - in which there was nothing I could get him to eat. In those cases, I gave him a small insulin shot and skipped the meal. We had learned over time and with testing how much insulin he could have if he didn't eat.

                                For whatever reason, a lot of dogs don't want to eat breakfast. If they are going to turn up their noses at one, it's virtually always in the morning. So combine that with something that's dampening the appetite for food in general or for that food and it can be a challenge. A few dogs have wound up on a standard regimen of a small dose of insulin and no food in the morning and a big dose of insulin and one large meal in the evening. That is certainly an option.

                                Natalie

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