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  • Re: Sadie Lynn

    So glad Sadie had a good day!
    Chuck-108 lb male Rottweiler, 8 years old. Dx Sept. 24, 2014. 22.5 units of Novolin N 2 x a day. Alpha Track 2. 2 1/2 cup Purina OM Select Blend, 2 x a day. Also mom to 2 Boxer boys, I love my 3 boys-chucksmom aka Kim

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    • Re: Sadie Lynn

      Woke up this AM wondering want surprise the curve had coming for me and Sadie today.

      Found out real fast.....

      AM fast: 67

      Fed, holding injection for 15 minutes then we're off to another full day of monitoring the curve...
      Sadie Lynn April 2, 2003 to December 30, 2015, Mini Schnauzer

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      • Re: Sadie Lynn

        I,m thinking she,s getting too much insulin. 0.125 per kg is the recommended dose being 12 kg x 0.125 is 1.5 units of levemir. all dogs are different. I would be decreasing with those low numbers. 8 units seems shes rising more from the 7 units.
        Riliey . aka Ralphy, Alice, Big Boy
        20 lb male. 5 1/2 nph insulin. 1/2 cup fromms. black cockapoo, dx Apr 2012 . 5 1\2 yrs diabetic. 2000 to 2017

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        • Re: Sadie Lynn

          Originally posted by Riliey and Mo View Post
          I,m thinking she,s getting too much insulin. Looks like you had a symogi rebound. 483 to drop to 85 is alot.

          0.125 per kg is the recommended dose being 12 kg x 0.125 is 1.5 units of levemir.

          all dogs are different. I would be decreasing with those low numbers.

          8 units seems shes rising more from the 7 units.
          Not sure of the translation, But I've been using the .25 unit per lb. as a starting point for the levemir and at 29.3 lbs this gives 7.1 units. She has been holding steady at the dosage until just the other day.

          Vet appointment this week So this will be on my talking list.
          Sadie Lynn April 2, 2003 to December 30, 2015, Mini Schnauzer

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            levemir is 4 times as potent as NPH . so a 4 unit dose of n insulin would be comparable to 1 unit of levemir. so a starting dose would be much smaller on levemir compared to NPH or vetsulin
            Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
            Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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            • Re: Sadie Lynn

              Did the vet not tell you the dosage?

              This where theirs an error and overdosing with symogi swing is evident

              0.125 units per kg in weight which is 0.125 x 12 kg = 1.5 levemir units

              i would reduce the dose.

              mo
              Riliey . aka Ralphy, Alice, Big Boy
              20 lb male. 5 1/2 nph insulin. 1/2 cup fromms. black cockapoo, dx Apr 2012 . 5 1\2 yrs diabetic. 2000 to 2017

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              • Re: Sadie Lynn

                Levemir generally is much more potent.

                Regardless, any time you have low blood sugar, the thing to do is immediately reduce the insulin dose going forward.

                It's not a question of if, only a question of how much to reduce it.

                Natalie

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                • Re: Sadie Lynn

                  From December 26

                  morning fast 203
                  9:45 324
                  11:30 179
                  5PM 94
                  630food plus 7u

                  8:30PM 373

                  From January 29

                  FYI her latest curve:
                  6AM 90
                  8AM 166
                  10AM 144
                  12N 130
                  2PM 96
                  6PM 116

                  7 units of Levemir @ 6 and 6, holding steady at 29lbs.

                  From January 30

                  6AM 245
                  8AM 241
                  10AM 174
                  12N 207
                  2PM 246
                  4PM 405
                  6PM 478
                  . . . .

                  Everything on the 30th was higher so not necessarily a rebound... I find that rebounding is not all that common. More likely either her blood sugar was being pushed higher by something or the insulin got stuck somewhere or didn't get absorbed.

                  In general, I feel that 7 units is too much, at least on some days. I would go down at least 1 full unit and see how she does on that.

                  Natalie

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                  • Re: Sadie Lynn

                    Considering that she got sick, I was not surprised at the drop. She just didn't have as much food working with her insulin.

                    I think, though, I might be inclined to drop her a unit. Although she has had very good blood sugar, it is incredibly hard to account for things like her throwing up or excessive playing and I would like more leeway so there is no worry. I tried for quite some time to walk the line with Maggie like that and I really believe that she is in better shape now than when I had such standards for her blood sugar management. I know we are both happier - maintenance is such a full time job.
                    Maggie - 15 1/2 y/o JRT diagnosed 9/2007, Angel status on 6/20/16. Her mantra was never give up but her body couldn't keep up with her spirit. Someday, baby.......

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                    • Re: Sadie Lynn

                      First, yes the VET was using .25/lb.

                      As back ground Sadie would not react to other insulin types So she was put on 10 units of Levemir. She stayed at steady readings of over 400 for some weeks then as she improved was taken down to 5units and slowly upped to 7 with several ups and downs along the way.

                      We have our vet visit on Thursday so I'm holding off changes until then.

                      Todays numbers:
                      6AM 67
                      8AM 154
                      10AM 163
                      12N 133
                      2PM 144
                      4PM 232
                      6PM 342

                      Superbowl 3:30, Seahawks lost, lot of excitement in the house...

                      The Levemir peaked somewhere around 11AM.
                      Last edited by WRoberson; 02-02-2015, 07:33 AM. Reason: update info
                      Sadie Lynn April 2, 2003 to December 30, 2015, Mini Schnauzer

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                      • Re: Sadie Lynn

                        Todays numbers
                        Monday
                        6AM 150
                        8AM 263
                        10AM 259
                        12N 183
                        2PM 148
                        4PM 162
                        6PM 371

                        Sunday
                        6AM 67
                        8AM 154
                        10AM 163
                        12N 133
                        2PM 144
                        4PM 232
                        6PM 342

                        With the exception of the football game on Sunday.
                        Same times, same 7 units, same snacks, same exercise, same naps...
                        Sadie Lynn April 2, 2003 to December 30, 2015, Mini Schnauzer

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                        • Re: Sadie Lynn

                          As is my normal, after injecting Sadie I rub the area with my palm.

                          Tonight for the first time I came up with a bloody palm. I'm not sure if I got the insulin in, but the blood did come from the injection site. The needle was not bent upon removal.

                          Looks like I'm taking BG readings tonight!

                          Your thoughts.
                          Sadie Lynn April 2, 2003 to December 30, 2015, Mini Schnauzer

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                          • Re: Sadie Lynn

                            Seems odd that you would get enough blood to mark your palm, maybe you hit an artery. Does Sadie have a cyst or a sore there?
                            12.5 yr Husky mix - Caninsulin 40I.U/ml - 15.5 units twice daily - 2 cups Medical Royalcanin Diabetic twice daily plus chicken supplement

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                            • Re: Sadie Lynn

                              probably hit a blood vessel . yes you do want to monitor tonight . if the insulin penetrated the blood stream it can work much faster than normal . more than likely thats not the case it would take a perfect scenario but we cant take anything for granted
                              Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
                              Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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                              • Re: Sadie Lynn

                                I have had the issue from time to time with Maggie. I don't know if some dogs just are more prone to it - kind of like some people just bleed easier. I always test more because it is frightening but it has never affected her blood sugar. But, others have seen lows if injected directly into bloodstream. Fingers and paws crossed that everything will be normal.
                                Maggie - 15 1/2 y/o JRT diagnosed 9/2007, Angel status on 6/20/16. Her mantra was never give up but her body couldn't keep up with her spirit. Someday, baby.......

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